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Post by blueboy on Sun Mar 26, 2017 8:44 am

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/manchester-city-confident-landing-danny-10098273

Transfer fees have gone silly...but I guess if it gets us one of the best LB's in Europe....

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Re: £50m....Danny Rose.

Post by Topdawg on Sun Mar 26, 2017 9:40 am

one of the best LBs in Europe Razz Razz Razz Razz 

Was it only 2 yrs ago he was valued at £15M which many found too high?
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Post by blueboy on Sun Mar 26, 2017 10:00 am

Topdawg wrote:one of the best LBs in Europe Razz Razz Razz Razz 

Was it only 2 yrs ago he was valued at £15M which many found too high?

Name me 5 better LB's in Europe over the past 18 months?

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Re: £50m....Danny Rose.

Post by Topdawg on Sun Mar 26, 2017 10:29 am

whoever plays for Bayern, Madrid, Barca, Atheltico, Juventus
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Post by Topdawg on Sun Mar 26, 2017 10:31 am

Rose is probably in the top 10 though.
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Re: £50m....Danny Rose.

Post by Topdawg on Sun Mar 26, 2017 10:38 am

Alaba, Alba, Digne, Rodriguez, Guerreiro. Even Azpi at Chelsea maybe.
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Re: £50m....Danny Rose.

Post by blueboy on Sun Mar 26, 2017 10:43 am

Atletico - Filipe Loius in a 4-4-2

Bayern - play a 3-4-3 and Alaba plays on the left

Real Madrid - Marcelo in a 4-2-3-1

Barcelona - was Alba, but Lucas Digne has played there in a 4-1-2-3

Juventus play a 3-5-2 with Chiellini as the left sided defender.

So, in a 4-4-2 with proper LB's, you have Marcelo, Digne and Luis.....I'd say Rose is better than Digne at least.

So you haven't named me 5 LB's in Europe.... Razz Razz Razz

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Post by blueboy on Sun Mar 26, 2017 10:45 am

Topdawg wrote:Alaba, Alba, Digne, Rodriguez, Guerreiro. Even Azpi at Chelsea maybe.

What???? Rodriguez on what evidence??? Azpi? He's a converted RB and was gash last season. Guerriro? Stop looking at Google. I said in the last 18 months. Alaba definitely. Alba is in and out of the team because of his form.

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Post by skyblueoz on Sun Mar 26, 2017 11:56 am

can't say i'm excited by the prospect of Rose. The trouble is we don't see enough of European sides consistently to make judgements on players. A name gets thrown about on various media outlets then we all get a you tube clip or if we are lucky get to see a couple of games & pass judgement. Rose however, we have seen enough of over the years to pass a reasonable judgement, but again that judgement is purely based on personal opinion.
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Post by skyblueoz on Sun Mar 26, 2017 12:12 pm

Apart from those you have listed above since the 1st of Feb (close of the winter transfer window) we have been linked in the various media outlets for the following left backs.

Faouzi Gholam - Napoli
Wendell - Bayer Leverkusen
Sead Kolasinac - Schalke
Bernard Mendy - AS Monaco
Yuri Berchiche - Real Sociedad
Jose Luis Gaya - Valencia.

In all honesty I can honestly say I have only heard of two of those players. Gholam whom I've never seen play & Mendy only because we have just played Monaco. They may all be world beaters for all we know but because we know Rose from the premier league it is easier to make a judgement, rightly or wrongly.
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Re: £50m....Danny Rose.

Post by Topdawg on Sun Mar 26, 2017 1:03 pm

Just because Rose plays in the Pl doesn't make him one of the best LB in Europe and worth paying £50M for.

You said name me 5 better LBs. You didn't say don't use google to find those name and I doubt you gave me the background on those players without using google Razz Razz Razz Razz Razz
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Post by blueboy on Sun Mar 26, 2017 2:42 pm

Topdawg wrote:Just because Rose plays in the Pl doesn't make him one of the best LB in Europe and worth paying £50M for.

You said name me 5 better LBs. You didn't say don't use google to find those name and I doubt you gave me the background on those players without using google Razz Razz Razz Razz Razz

Think you've just answered your own question there....Google. I just posted all the names of those who play for the teams you mentioned - and no Google was needed for that, as you see all of those teams and players on TV most weeks, in their leagues and in the CL.

Your second post was what I was referring to with a list of names that most of us have rarely ever seen play - so what makes them to be 'better' than Rose? Wink

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Post by blueboy on Sun Mar 26, 2017 2:48 pm

Also....John Stones was £50m and he played in the PL. I think I also started off my thread with "transfer fees are getting silly..." Of course Rose isn't worth £50m....but he's English which will mean an additional £10-15m and he'd be transferring from a team that are in direct competition to us - which means an even bigger fee.

Personally, I don't see any LB in the PL who comes close to Rose on his form of the past 2 seasons. He's been brilliant.

Yes, we could bring in the likes of Alaba and one or two of the names Oz mentioned, but who's to say they won't end up as overpriced, average players who struggle in the PL?

Mangala
Otamendi
Savic

At least Rose is proven in the PL and I'd rather go for him than gamble on some 'potential' name from Europe, unless they are seriously good or have potential that Pep knows all about - Kimmich??


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Re: £50m....Danny Rose.

Post by Topdawg on Sun Mar 26, 2017 2:58 pm

What would concern me about Danny would also concern me about players new to the PL is the pressure of playing for a club like City. Yes, some names new to the PL may have already played for biggish clubs overseas, so I'm equating the pressure of being new to the PL to the pressure playing for a big club.

Over the last two seasons, maybe you're right about the PL because some of the others have been injured (Shaw and Bertrand) but Azpi is a decent shout over the last 12 months at least.

I still wouldn't rate Rose as better than those in my list but what do I know? Razz Razz
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Re: £50m....Danny Rose.

Post by blueboy on Sun Mar 26, 2017 3:00 pm

You mean this list?

Alaba, Alba, Digne, Rodriguez, Guerreiro. Even Azpi at Chelsea maybe.

Rose is a better PL LB than Azpi imo.

As for the others, I mentioned the likes of Alaba as being better - but Alba is struggling to regain his place, though on his previous form, yes, he's better than Rose. As for the others.... Razz Razz Razz

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Re: £50m....Danny Rose.

Post by Topdawg on Sun Mar 26, 2017 3:10 pm

Get out of it. If Alba can't get how place, then surely the guy who has it must be better than Rose???
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Re: £50m....Danny Rose.

Post by blueboy on Sun Mar 26, 2017 3:34 pm

Why? There were rumours last season about his form...maybe he's been that poor that Digne is marginally better, but still not as good as Alba at his best.

Digne played when we beat them 3-1 and he was fucking awful!!

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Post by Topdawg on Sun Mar 26, 2017 4:10 pm

Aren't players allowed a poor game now and again?
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Post by blueboy on Sun Mar 26, 2017 4:17 pm

Topdawg wrote:Aren't players allowed a poor game now and again?

Not sure he's been pulling up trees Dawg and Alba will soon be back in the team.

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Re: £50m....Danny Rose.

Post by Topdawg on Sun Mar 26, 2017 4:51 pm

Alba's played a few more games this season than Digne.

Still, it'd be like City to pay big money for a player that's currently crocked.

Though Rose isn't that old at 26, I'd like us to get someone around 20-23.
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Post by blueboy on Sun Mar 26, 2017 4:58 pm

Nah, too young, too inexperienced to have both FB's that young....Rose is guaranteed to give you PL experience, alongside Stones plus one other in a 3 or with a RB like Kimmich.

If it was about playing kids....Maffeo would have stayed. Who knows, maybe Pep has him in mind for RB next season?

We've got kids up front, mid-20's in MF....you need some experience at the back, somewhere...hence, why he may have another crack at Bonucci in the summer to partner Stones.

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Post by blueboy on Sun Mar 26, 2017 4:59 pm

We need to be looking at who brings in players at Monaco....and recruit that bugger!

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Post by skyblueoz on Sun Mar 26, 2017 4:59 pm

i only mentioned those left backs as a point of case there are more left backs than just Rose who could be as good at half the price. Yes it will always be hit & miss but given a full season to bed a player in should see how much potential is there. We did not do the same with Savic all to quick to discard and 2 champions league finals later & now only 27 think what might have been with a bit of patience. I have to admit Digne looked piss poor up against Sterling, Lucky not to be sent off before half time thanks largely to a very lenient ref.
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Post by Topdawg on Sun Mar 26, 2017 5:16 pm

I thought Savic was binned too early as well. Mango was binned a season too late.

Those Monaco kids were given a chance because they had potential and given the opportunity to develop that potential at a fearless young age in the 1st team.

I'd be surprised if we didn't have kids from 15-18 who have shown similar potential who don't get games for whatever reason.

A season ago, many were singing the praise of Tosin, or wanting Denayer back or crying over the sale of Rekik. Maybe they just weren't good enough for us, but they don't seem to have been given the chance.
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Post by Strange Blue on Sun Mar 26, 2017 9:16 pm

We need to up the English quota we also need full backs its a no brainer. Annoying that we have to pay double what we would for a foreign player, but at least he will be used to the prem. I recently read that the gunners now have a higher wage bill seems unlikely maybe Ive got this wrong, but anyway we are moving in the right direction.
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Post by Topdawg on Sun Mar 26, 2017 9:52 pm

I believe they do SB. I think one of their problems is that they pay average players too much to be s had players. Now new players are asking for much more than normal, they're getting stung
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Post by Strange Blue on Sun Mar 26, 2017 11:14 pm

Incredible though that the gunners have such a high wage bill & that the rags have the most expensive team in the prem even before they skunked 90 mil on one average player & yet they still bring money into the equation every time we are mentioned.
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Post by Topdawg on Mon Mar 27, 2017 5:34 am

It so easy to sling mud at us. When the rags stopped winning stuff, they didn't care what it took to get them back to the top. They'd have taken oil money, mercenaries, absolutely anything to win stuff. Hypocrites.
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Re: £50m....Danny Rose.

Post by shakencity on Mon Mar 27, 2017 8:26 am

A quality LB is what City have missed for years now, so spend 50 mil on Rose and be done with it...I'd also give the Spuds another 50 mil and get Walker while we're there.
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Post by Topdawg on Mon Mar 27, 2017 8:30 am

Offer £60M for the pair of them. See if their heads are turned
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Post by blueboy on Mon Mar 27, 2017 8:59 am

No chance with Levy....watched England and thought Walker was excellent again....I agree, shove an £80m bid for the pair.

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Post by Topdawg on Mon Mar 27, 2017 9:15 am

Ok £80M then. Why not make it £150M and ask for dele as well? Razz
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Post by blueboy on Mon Mar 27, 2017 9:46 am

I'd be happy with that!

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Post by blueboy on Mon Mar 27, 2017 9:47 am

Still leaves us potentially, another £100m to spend on a striker.

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Post by TMG on Mon Mar 27, 2017 1:36 pm

Keane played very well for England I thought Someone will snap him up for £20m I reckon
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Post by skyblueoz on Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:46 pm

why not just buy tottenham ???
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Post by blueboy on Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:48 pm

Now there's a point!

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Post by Strange Blue on Mon Mar 27, 2017 4:57 pm

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