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More UEFA FFP garbage...

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Re: More UEFA FFP garbage...

Post by blueboy on Sun Jul 30, 2017 10:34 am

And then you have this....

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/sport/psg-set-to-move-on-500m-deal-for-barcelonas-neymar-jvh25srk3

Neymar's father asked PSG to delay formal negotiations with Barcelona over a £450m deal for his son until after 31 July - that is the day when he earns a £23.3m commission for his part in persuading the forward to sign a new contract with the Nou Camp club last October.

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Post by shakencity on Sun Jul 30, 2017 10:38 am

I thought FFP had been scrapped scratch

Surely City wouldn't have spent the money if they didn't comply.
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Post by Topdawg on Sun Jul 30, 2017 10:50 am

Fucking shitty site. Deleted my long, very informative post. Simply said, the new tv deal obliterates FFP for top clubs that don't after relegation. CL the deal kicks it even further into touch. 

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Post by skyblueoz on Sun Jul 30, 2017 4:22 pm

Why do they insist on not reporting the fact that uefa had to pay back the fine when they found out that what they themselves had done was not legal.........?
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Post by Topdawg on Sun Jul 30, 2017 4:44 pm

I don't think that was the case Oz. It was a part suspended fine and we got some money back for not transgressing again for 2 seasons
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Post by blueboy on Sun Jul 30, 2017 4:49 pm

Like Platini....tell them to "fuck right off". Bent bastards. Rolling Eyes

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Post by skyblueoz on Mon Jul 31, 2017 6:21 am

my bad then dawg. that is what I saw  reported. I read it was to be legally challenged & they ( uefa had to back down & ratify the initial concept of FFP as in it"s current state at that given time they would not have won the court challenge. They then had to eat humble pie & return the imposed fines minus the 1st year as that had already passed.
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Post by Topdawg on Mon Jul 31, 2017 6:26 am

If that was the case, they'd have had to return all monies.
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Post by Strange Blue on Mon Jul 31, 2017 11:19 am

Isn't FFP calculated over a 3 year period i.e. you can overspend by more than 23M one year is its made up for on the other 2 years by increased revenue?
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Post by Topdawg on Mon Jul 31, 2017 11:28 am

Yes. We got fined with some returned if we corrected ourselves over the next two years. We did, and they paid the suspended part of the fine back
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Post by Strange Blue on Mon Jul 31, 2017 11:33 am

So does that men that this season starts as a new 3 year cycle if we over spend this year? I find it hard to belive that the club has not worked this out to the last penny & have accounted for the worst case I.e we have a bad CL run etc & what impact it would have on TV revenue.
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Post by Topdawg on Mon Jul 31, 2017 12:10 pm

I'd guess it's a 3 yr rolling cycle. The new tv deal killed FFP in this country for a year. Now transfer prices have rocketed, that may change. But, with all the new sponsorship and commercial deals out there, it's pretty much a busted flush.
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Post by Strange Blue on Mon Jul 31, 2017 12:21 pm

How much is the new TV deal worth roughly?
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Post by Topdawg on Mon Jul 31, 2017 1:06 pm

Clubs are getting an extra £50M a year. The new CL to deal was worth an extra £10-£20M a year. Most CL teams are now getting at least £70M a season more than two years ago. If they've also git a new kit deal, they're getting over £100M more than two years ago.
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Post by blueboy on Mon Jul 31, 2017 2:46 pm

City made £12m and £32m 2014/15 and 2015/16. Last seasons profit increased massively. With the new TV deal we can afford a loss close to €100m, but with the massive increase in the new TV deal and the new sponsors, we can spend around £300m this summer and still be within FFP rules....

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Post by Topdawg on Mon Jul 31, 2017 3:18 pm

I seriously believe we can spend £500M on transfers this summer
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Post by Topdawg on Mon Jul 31, 2017 3:20 pm

Amortisation works out at £100M a year. This is without even considering the outgoing sales which should bring us in at least £50M if Itchy's sale goes though.
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Post by Topdawg on Mon Jul 31, 2017 3:21 pm

The only issues would be that we couldn't do it again with increasing our profit/ new money coming in. And wages would rise sa fair bit too if we got the likes of Sanchez and VVD in
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Post by skyblueoz on Tue Aug 01, 2017 6:11 am

should be far more than 50 million daw... we have got back 42 so far that is without Itchy, bony delph Nasri & Mangala.
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Post by Topdawg on Tue Aug 01, 2017 6:55 am

Maybe we'll get nearer to £100M in sales. I was just throwing a number out there.
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Post by Topdawg on Tue Aug 01, 2017 6:59 am

And we'll probably book £40-£45M as profit on those sales in the accounts so we could actually spend even more!!!
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Post by Topdawg on Tue Aug 01, 2017 7:01 am

That's why buying all these kids makes good business sense if you sell them on. Itchy, Unal and Mooy will book us over £40M profit in the accounts. You could spend a cool £200M based just on that alone.
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