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Post by blueboy Sat Oct 04, 2014 5:09 pm

...........he needs an absolutely brilliant game today, otherwise, there is NO WAY Pellegrini can justify him having a starting place.

Over to you....'lazy fucker'. Please prove me wrong.
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Post by Guest Sat Oct 04, 2014 6:11 pm

He's a fooking liability let alone just TLB

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Post by blueboy Sat Oct 04, 2014 6:20 pm

Agree....that first half, all he did was receive the ball on the half way line from the CB's...then either play a 10yrd pass forward into the feet of the other players, or pass it back....and that was it.

Now.....is it him, or is it MP's instructions?

All I know is that he is a pissing waste of space in what he's doing or, what MP's telling him to do...and if so, then MP's a fuckwit.
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Post by Topdawg Sat Oct 04, 2014 6:45 pm

I take it you're not best pleased again bluey
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Post by blueboy Sat Oct 04, 2014 7:25 pm

I'm happy we got the 3 points....Aguero should've have at least a hat-trick....so the lazy fucker wouldn't have mattered...but he needs to be doing that every week, if he's going to be sat minding the CB's for £220k pw.
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Post by leopold Sat Oct 04, 2014 7:31 pm

TLF is the new John Barnes!
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Post by blueboy Sat Oct 04, 2014 7:33 pm

leopold wrote:TLF is the new John Barnes!

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Post by blueboy Sat Oct 04, 2014 7:44 pm

Honestly.....he was piss poor In the first half, he didn't track back and didn't do a jot....but suddenly, with Fernando there, he started to edge, ever so slightly further forward.

I think we have all known, that he is best further forward...so is it MP who is suppressing him?

He's shit sat deep, as he's too lazy.
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Post by ManCityMan Sun Oct 05, 2014 3:06 pm

blueboy wrote:.......he didn't track back and didn't do a jot
I'm pretty sure that i remember him making a great blocking tackle in the City box in the first half mate! i didn't think he was worthy of criticism yesterday, he links up play well in the midfield and rarely misplaces a pass or gives away possession easily. He is a big man, never was or will be a greyhound that races around the park like Milner. Some games he is not as effective as he is in others but you can say that about most players in the team. Just saying.
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Post by blueboy Sun Oct 05, 2014 3:24 pm

Some games he is not as effective as he is in others but you can say that about most players in the team. Just saying.
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Some games? He's been shit all season apart from that goal....and if he got 1 blocked tackle in during 90 mins of a game as a DFM, does that mean we should go easy on him for £220k per week?

Sorry, he gave some of the most ridiculously poor passes away yesterday, on top of a lacklustre effort to track back.

As for passes, for a 'supposed' world class player commanding that salary, I'd expect more decisive passes than some he gave yesterday....some were a joke.

Now, either he's a DFM or he's an attacking MF. Which is it?

If he's an attacking MF player - his stats show he didn't even enter Villa's box yesterday...OK, he got a good goal. But that's his 2nd all season.

If he's a DFM, then I expect him to track back, with effort, every single fucking time....and the videos shown by Carragher after the game, showed 2 occasions where he just couldn't be arsed.

Everyone seems to think he's a greyhound when he goes on marauding runs likes of last season. Everyone's happy to give him the plaudits for doing that....so there's absolutely no excuse not to put the same amount in when we're on the back foot...but he doesn't.

Sorry, but he's been a lazy fucker this season....and it's no coincidence we've been playing average football with him in his current role.

I won't change my mind on him over one good tackle, or one goal...we should have got rid of him in the summer when he started 3 months of absolute bollocks with the club that pays him the highest wage.

I think some forget what he actually said in the summer about our club...and can easily forgive him. I won't.
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Post by skyblueoz Sun Oct 05, 2014 3:26 pm

he misplaced a fair number of simple 5 yard passes yesterday, however that said if he gets back to 3/4 of the player we had last season that would be ok 4 me. Just wish he would do as blue says a bit more tracking back instead of ambling back looking dis interested. Reminds me a bit of Richards with his tracking back. He used to bomb forward from right back & amble back like he didn't have a care in the world.
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Post by blueboy Sun Oct 05, 2014 4:31 pm

All I ever want in a player is 100%.

If he's as shit as he's been this season, then I want 100%, nothing less. I'll forgive any player for making wayward passes, trying to force passes, even mis-timed tackles....as long as they are putting effort in.

He just doesn't bother...that's my biggest gripe with him. And I know his posture is languid, but we don't have to be body language specialists to see his lack of effort tracking back for the team...and for me, it's unforgivable to be like that as the clubs highest paid player.

If he's still mourning the loss of brother, so be it. He's not the first person on the planet to lose a close relative...so deal with it. Take some time off, do whatever he needs to do....it shouldn't be used as an excuse.

I almost get the feeling he's using this as an excuse for his form and to deflect what he said in the summer.

I'll remind you all over his ridiculous claims over the summer and some of what was written about TLF and his retard agent, who TLF calls 'dad'. Rolling Eyes

Footballing excuses worthy of a national comedy award have always been with us.

In the days before colour TV, if a player had been on the wrong end of a night-club scrap, his facial bruises were passed off as a “gardening accident”. And if he failed a medical due to the detection of venereal disease, the club would say they weren’t signing him due to concerns over “high blood pressure.”

More recently, David James put an inability to catch crosses down to fingers strained by his PlayStation, and Stephen Ireland invented not one, but two, dead grandmothers to get out of playing for Ireland.

But when it comes to extricating yourself from your contract, some comic sagas are worthy of a month’s run at the Edinburgh Festival.

Think Carlos Tevez saying he had to leave Manchester City for Italy, so he could be closer to his daughters. Who lived in Argentina.

Or Luis Suarez claiming he had to get out of Liverpool to escape the intrusive London-based English media, before agitating for a move to London-based Arsenal.

For two years running, Dimitri Seluk - the agent Toure calls “Dad” - has dreamt up scripts so surreal that Eddie Izzard on LSD could not surpass them.

Barcelona-based Seluk currently believes his distraught client should be allowed to walk away from a four-year contract he signed only last summer, and is worth more than £200,000-a-week, because Manchester City didn’t give him a cake to celebrate his 31st birthday.

Even though they did.

As a pointer for inexperienced agents stuck for ways to navigate a player towards the exit door, here’s how I imagine the phone call that sparked Cakegate went:

YAYA: So, what’s this year’s plan to get me back to Barcelona, Dad?

AGENT: I’m thinking 'lack of love'. There’s not enough Yaya shirts in the club shop or pictures of you around the ground etc...

YAYA: You used that last year and all we got was a pay rise. Come on. One more year and Barca mightn’t want me. It was my 31st birthday last week.

AGENT: How did that go?

YAYA: I don’t want to talk about it.

AGENT: What’s up?

YAYA: It was the cake City got me. It wasn’t.... y'know..

AGENT: Are you saying it wasn’t Postman Pat? But they know you love to pick the yellow Smarties off the top of his sponge van.

YAYA: I didn’t get a Jess The Cat “31 Today” badge either.

AGENT: The heartless b******s. How about when you landed in Abu Dhabi? No bouncy castle?

(SILENCE)

AGENT: No chocolate fountain or pinata? Tell me they gave you a pinata to hit?

(SILENCE).

Okay. If the sheikhs didn’t give you the bumps at the airport, we’ve got them for emotional negligence.

YAYA: Nobody even shook my hand.

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Manchester City midfielder Yaya Toure’s birthday huff is the weirdest and most depressing episode in football – which is saying something, because football the weirdest business of them all.

In case you missed the news, the 31 year-old Mr Toure is considering leaving his club during the summer transfer window because Manchester City failed to make a big enough show of his birthday.

The oddity starts with a man in his thirties expecting a pre-teen-style celebration. It continues with the fact that Yaya got a cake, a chorus of ‘Happy Birthday’ on his first class flight to Abu Dhabi, and a Twitter card. Yet he remains distraught, according to his agent Dimitri Seluk.

But the really stunning thing about the episode (apart from the baffling immaturity of the player) is that in football astronomical wages – in Yaya’s case of £220,000 a week – don’t buy your loyalty to the people you work for.

In countless episodes, the slightest infringement on a player’s emotions – real or fabricated – sends them straight to Twitter to moan to the world. Gross misconduct? No; a justifiable act in the face of cruel mistreatment.

Mr Toure’s case is the third like it at Manchester City in the last two years. Fellow well paid players Mario Balotelli and Carlos Tevez had high-profile spats with the club too. They weren’t summarily dismissed, but gradually side-lined and eventually traded in big money deals.

In no other industry could you have a public fight with the boss (in Mr Balotelli’s case) or refuse point-blank to do your job (in Mr Tevez’s case) and expect to hold on to your post.

So in honour of the strangeness of football, here are just some of the ways the Beautiful Game differs from the rest of the world economy:

Finance

-    Football teams almost never make money, most are highly indebted, yet owners regularly make a profit when they sell up

-    Astronomical salaries don’t necessarily buy loyalty, timeliness, passion or commitment

PR/Marketing

-    Official social media channels, run by loyal members of staff, are ignored by the media in favour personal social media accounts run by players

HR

-    Only in the most extreme cases are players sacked, yet they can break five-year contracts after one year, or simply refuse to perform until they are sold

-    Some of the best footballers are so protected by their clubs that their sense of maturity and independence doesn’t rise above that of a teenager until they retire

Third parties

-    In football, player agents are kings with enormous power and in many cases have a vested, financial, interest in moving players around

-    They do not however have a vested interest in serving the players’ clubs and, as a result, often act as agitators, disrupting players and hinting that the grass is always greener elsewhere

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It was inevitable that Luis Suarez would be the man generating the headlines both front and back page over the past 24-hours after the incident with Giorgio Chiellini in which it appeared that the Liverpool and Uruguay striker took a bite out of the Italian’s shoulder during their clash in the final round of World Cup games.

Had it not been for Suarez though it would very well likely have been Yaya Toure that generated the column inches and airwave discussions. In fact, Toure had become the topic de jour before any talk around him was stopped in his tracks immediately by Suarez.

And there may be more than one or two around The Etihad Stadium thankful of that for just when ‘Cake-gate’ was beginning to drift into distant memory an interview with France Football when he cast further doubt over his treatment by the club.

It was recently announced the younger brother of Toure had died of cancer and the midfielder claimed that City had been far from accommodating during this time, saying: ‘At the end of the season, I wanted to stay for four or five days with my brother before I flew to prepare for the World Cup with Ivory Coast, except that City did not want to grant me a few days.’

The comments of course swiftly generated headlines, again pitting Toure against the club so soon after comments from his agent over the supposed lack of respect shown to the Ivorian, who saw his side crash out of the World Cup at the hands of Greece on Tuesday evening.
City have so far not issued a statement regarding the matter but members of the Manchester-based press pack steadfastly defended the club and it should be noted that City have a history of support in this area, in particular to Roberto Mancini, Carlos Tevez, Pablo Zabaleta and Emmanuel Adebayor.

Whilst the Suarez incident (and to a lesser extent the continual World Cup coverage) has nullified the potential impact of Toure’s comments you do get the sense that this is an issue bubbling away underneath the surface and liable to come to the boil at any time.

It appears on the face of it to be a black and white issue: either the club have acted in a way lacks of compassion and respect at such a critical time or Toure is not being truthful.

Having read the full transcript, the comments do not appear quite as incendiary as they do when placed in the context of a headline but the overriding suspicion remains that Toure may be attempting to engineer a move away from the club.

After such a rent-a-quote operation from Toure’s agent Dimitri Seluk at the end of the season he has been conspicuously quiet this time around. Unsurprisingly, the City hierarchy have remained silent.

With City progressing nicely in the transfer market this summer the last they need is a destabilising force such as Toure agitating for a move to throw such plans into chaos – which, if true, leaves City with some tough decisions to contend with.

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IMO...decisions should have been made by the board to get rid of this pantomime mercenary. I'm not one for believing in players kissing badges and pledging to stay for life etc etc.....but he completely disrespected all that the club had done for him, not only did he blame the club for him not seeing his brother prior to his death, for not giving him permission to have compassionate leave, 1 week before his brother's death - TLF went to the Ivory Coasts training camp for the WC....when he could have easily have flown to his brothers side....but he didn't. His ego took over and when his brother died, he used City as an excuse for the fact he wasn't there...making up lies and blaming City.

After cake-gate, he then went on to talk about PSG and Barca again, telling journalists how he would love to finish his career at such esteemed clubs....this after he had won the double with us, and voted Player of the Season.

This whole summer has been about him engineering a big money move for him and his agent, or to get another massive increase on his salary/contract that he only signed the season before. When his retard agent made ridiculous comments, TLF backed them up by Tweeting "everything my agent says is correct".

He's a fucking joke. And I'd rather have a 100% committed City player, giving it everything every week and sacrifice 10 goals, than this fucking mercenary thinking he can amble through a game because in his own mind, he justifies it because of his salary and performances of yester-year.
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Post by leopold Mon Oct 06, 2014 12:25 am

blueboy wrote:All I ever want in a player is 100%.
Precisely!  I personally don't care if the player is utter shite (and we've had a sizeable amount of that down the years) as long as they try their hardest.  I could even laugh at the ineptitude, because I could sigh and say, "Bless him, at least he tries."  Because when I see a player doing all he can in our shirt, I know he's doing his best for our club and that's about all we could ever ask for.  They might not be right good, but they give everything for the cause.

But when I see someone pull on the shirt and then dick about for 90 minutes or so, that pisses me off.  These guys in our colours are supposed to be our heroes, our talismen.  The guys we look up to, the ones who make us proud.  But when they can't be bothered, that's nothing short of an insult.

And I've found the money has brought the biggest insults of all.

We've gone from journeymen who were glad of a game to overpaid prima-donnas who are just milking the owners and sitting back in their luxury mansions, counting their fancy cars and engineering their next big money move with their oily agents.  We're just another big pocket for them to feed from.

And the biggest insult of all is when they start to murmur about support.

Sorry, but football is primarily about entertainment.  We go to watch the sport and to support our chosen team.  We do it voluntarily, as a release from the daily grind.  So it's no different to going to a concert or a play.  But you don't see actors flouncing about, moaning about the lack of audience participation.  You don't see bands putting in a half shift and expecting the crowd to jolly them along.  And it's the same with football.  We make the effort to pay our money and turn up and sing, but if the players can't be bothered, then why in all good conscience should we?

If I ran a football club, then every player would get a basic stipend and performance related bonuses.  And if they don't perform, they don't get enough money to buy another Ferrari this week.

And I'd not bother signing TLF either...
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Post by blueboy Mon Oct 06, 2014 9:51 am

I think he's missing what fans are saying. I don't believe anybody expects him to get all of the goals, but once again, instead of admitting he's not been at his best, he twists around what's being said about his form.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/yaya-toure-im-midfielder-job-4385737
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