So who to blame?

Liverpool have changed their style. They are running more. Not just a little bit, but a lot more. they are chasing down defenders when they have the ball, not allowing them an easy time to pass it around. They are harrying the goalkeeper when the ball is passed back to him. They are pressing really hard.

So why City think they can ignore their change in style and think they can just stroll through another game? It is highly delusional to think that you can just turn up and win. Yet City appear to be doing that time and time again.

The first choice defensive pairing at the end of last season, looked out of their depth.

Giving Mauel Pellegrini a contract extension before the start of the season seemed like a masterstroke. But everyone knew he was going to leave if Pep was available for next season.

Well City better hope that Pep is available next season, but I'm not convinced he'll sort this shower out any time soon.

It's a shambles that really didn't need to happen though,it's incredible that Pellegrini and his coaching staff thought that starting set up against a manager known for a high press and high energy start was going to be anything but a mighty struggle. It was the height f incompetence from Pellegrini and it's not an isolated incident either.
With the personnel available we should have started with
Hart
Sagna Otamendi Mangala Kolorov
Fernando
Fernandinho Delph
DeBruyne Aguero Sterling

winning the midfield was always going to have to be the first objective so to play the bone idle Yaya and Fernando who we know only too well isn't capable of playing in a 2 man midfield,attempting to shield Mangala and Demichellis,was utterly ridiculous. I bet Klopp was giddy when he saw our line up,I know I was horrified when it was announced.
Guardiola may or may not come in the summer,but I'll be very disappointed if we start next season with the laughably named engineer still in charge

When I saw that line up I knew we were in for a tough time.

i wanted a stacked midfield to protect our defence and then rely on our attack to sort out the goals. But did the attackers really get the chance to have a proper go when our defence and midfield are under so much pressure.

I wanted Fernando and Fernandinho to be protecting the back 4 with Yaya pushed further forwards. But I prefer Rich's
option of having Delph instead of Yaya. The mileage covered for starters would have made some difference.

Bolt up the back and then rely on the front three.

It's a worry that we struggle to beat Norwich, draw with Villa and get our arses handed to us by Spuddies and the Dippers.

Can I see us winning the league? Honestly not sure until Silva is back and fully fit.

But, if we are relying on David to beat this shower of shit (struggling in the league even with Klopp), then heaven help us.

It isn't just about getting new personnel in. We can go out and get Stones (and we really should), but the odd new face won't make the difference.

Biggest problem is he doesn't learn from his mistakes,however glaring they are.
If we played them again next week he'd play the same team.
He's one shit engineer
I'd take Ancelotti right now in a heartbeat

I'll agree with that. Luckily I had to go out at 1-0 but the writing was already on the wall by then.

I hate to say I told you so so I won't 

We had to play the way we played against Seville away, that would have at least hit the dippers head on.  When he did it we all thought bloody hell he can do it after all.   Cue next two games and we've been absolutely garbage.  I half expected Villa the most doomed team ever to walk the prem league to knick a winner.

Our formation needed changing after the first goal yesterday not at half time when 3-1 down.  We all see that and we are just fans, not a clown on multi-millions a year salary.

I agree PPLF if the whispers out of Germany that pep is signing his 17m (WTF) a year extension then dump the old chump now and get Ancelotti in for the January window.

Seems CL is the priority this year though.   We should be walking this league even now, and yet we are not even top 4 material on current form.

If Klopp can effect a difference just by making them run a lot further, why can't we? Don't top teams like Barca put you under pressure? We've seen it time and time again when teams put us under tremendous pressure - we just boot the ball around.

I don't get this idea of saving players for the CL game midweek. If we'd given the dippers a hiding the players would be heading to Turin on Wednesday full of confidence but now there has to be a sour feeling in the camp after that shambles and negativity in thought,that's human nature.
Same for the supporters,I'm not looking forward to the trip now on Wednesday like I was last week,it effects us all

We are top of our CL group and a draw will do us in Turin next week so why not go out to ensure we win against Liverpool and put out a defensive team next week for the CL? We could still have a forward three of note (Sterling, Aguaro, Kevin) so why worry about the next match?

Just remind me who was at home yesterday and who was top of the table yesterday?
What's all this stack the midfield and protect the defenders?

Said it for 18 months, whilst that lazy fuckwit continues to be picked, week in week out....we'll always have problems in MF.

Thank fuck I didn't watch it.

You can't blame it all on one man Bluey. If you don't like him, don't pick him in your FF team then.

He wasn't the reason he got spanked on yesterday, at least not the only one.

You have at least got to put some effort in evaluating how the other team might set up and counter that if you feel it is necessary.

You can't just ignore the other team and play the same way every time.

Why? Barca do. Bayern do. Real do. United did under Taggert.

I didn't watch the game so can't comment on each player. However, he brings fuck all to the table these days...and as you said, if a team up with high energy pressing against us, the one player you don't need in your team is TLMF.

But you pick him in your FF tam every week. there must be a reason behind it. Surely?

BUSTED Blue !

Think he's got a secret man crush on him really 

Just like everyone, we always have one player that you think "watch me drop him and he'll have a stormer"...well he's binned from now on!! Wanker.

Sagna - my mind was on the Paris attacks. Wasn't ready to face Liverpool.

Topdawg wrote:Sagna - my mind was on the Paris attacks. Wasn't ready to face Liverpool

Oh fuck off Sagna. Why didn't you tell the fucking manager before the game then

Don't use that as an excuse for your shite performance.

I don't like these after the event comments especially since he didn't play shit for France versus England just a few days beforehand. I had him down as having a pretty decent game then.

Topdawg wrote:I don't like these after the event comments especially since he didn't play shit for France versus England just a few days beforehand. I had him down as having a pretty decent game then.

Exactly.

shakencity wrote:

Topdawg wrote:Sagna - my mind was on the Paris attacks. Wasn't ready to face Liverpool

Oh fuck off Sagna. Why didn't you tell the fucking manager before the game then

Don't use that as an excuse for your shite performance.

Damn right! And to think we had Zaba on the bench, at least he wouldn't have been turned over every time. And he'd have made a few tackles.

And Mango didn't trot out that excuse for his crap performance, he's done the right thing and stayed schtum.

Zabba back for Juve then.