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Post by Jordan Thu Oct 17, 2013 9:12 am

Just when everyone is a little bit happier, a bit excited, yet more tripe comes out. What a ridiculous story...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/england/10384676/Roy-Hodgson-forced-to-apologise-in-bizarre-race-row-after-making-joke-about-England-winger-Andros-Townsend.html

We won't win the World Cup, but at least let's go there in good stead, play some good football and have fun. I for one am sick of what the media does to this country, not just in sport.
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Post by leopold Thu Oct 17, 2013 9:23 am

It is a ridiculous story, but at least the journo uses the word "bizarre" to at least defuse it a little.  Although he does hype it up a bit by not mentioning the space monkey joke in the headline.

I'll bet it was Smalling, taking umbrage at being the butt of the joke.

But you are right, chap.  The press are way too quick to pull the house down in this country and then moan when we fail to achieve anything.
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Post by Topdawg Thu Oct 17, 2013 9:29 am

For once I'd like a manager to tell the media to fuck off.

What are we going to have next, players complaining that the manager swore at them!
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Post by blueboy Thu Oct 17, 2013 10:03 am

Jesus, fucking Christ!!

I agree Dawg.....for once, just once....tell them to "go fuck yourself".

If I was Roy, I'd now want to get to the bottom of who leaked it.....and tell them they're not going to Brazil!!
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Post by Jordan Thu Oct 17, 2013 10:20 am

The good thing about Roy is that he has the media on his side, they seem to like him, he interviews well, handles the pressure well, takes the pressure off the players and gives well-thought straight to the point answers, I think telling them to 'fuck off' might backfire that a little. Although it would be funny, and well deserved.
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Post by blueboy Thu Oct 17, 2013 10:35 am

Apparently, the journo isn't a sports journo, but an entertainment one!

You know what Jordan, it won't matter whether Roy is savvy with the media or not.....they'll all turn on him eventually like they always do.....it sells papers.
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Post by leopold Thu Oct 17, 2013 11:05 am

The thing is, Roy's had to work to get the media on-side already.  In the run up to his appointment being made, the press were all over the idea of Uncle 'Arry taking over the job.  He was the media favourite:  He's English, not too shy about expressing opinion, was famous for getting Pompey to win the FA Cup (glossing over their rapid descent, naturally) and all his International experience gained from, er, taking Spurs into Europe a couple of times.

So when the FA decided to appoint Roy Hodgson as manager, they had a field day.  All they saw was another Steve McLaren, a dull manager with a history of playing safe football and conveniently ignoring the fact that he'd taken the Swiss national side to two back to back tournaments after several decades of never qualifying.  I thought Roy was a better man for the job, but it seemed that the press (and those who believe their hyperbole) disagreed.

He's even had stick for this qualification campaign, even though he's kind of proved what we already know; the old team were simply not good enough or hungry enough.

Now we've qualified, he's everyone's favourite manager.  And when we get knocked out, he'll be vilified all over again.

I'd prefer it if the FA came out and told the press to fuck off.  They should be doing more to defend Roy.
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Post by blueboy Thu Oct 17, 2013 11:32 am

well said Leo.
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Post by Jordan Thu Oct 17, 2013 11:50 am

I think the FA know that they are a scapegoat when in terms of the media. They are forever slated, and rightly so on occasions, for making the wrong decisions. They want to stay on the press' side, especially with Brazil fast approaching. 

At least a lot of the players, Andros included, have come out and defended Roy and said it was nonsense. I'm sure though, in the not so distant future, we'll have another scandal on ours hands to tarnish our World Cup hopes. 

I can see it now;

"Hart beds Roy's wife's best friends sisters cousin - causing rift in the camp"...

Give it a rest!
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Post by blueboy Thu Oct 17, 2013 12:01 pm

Townsend has just tweeted "what's all this about, no offence was taken".

The Kick It Out Campaign have now called on the FA to open an investigation!!

Absolutely bollocks.

The player who leaked it should be ashamed of himself.
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Post by leopold Thu Oct 17, 2013 12:52 pm

Oh, for god's sake!

At this point, the FA should say, "Yeah, okay, we'll do that."  Then they should call in every single person who was in the room when Roy made the joke and advise them they will all receive an indefinite playing ban until the perpetrator owns up.

I wouldn't mind, but even if we did go mental and draw a parallel between "monkey" and "Black man", in the context of the joke, the monkey was the intelligent party who could be trusted to do everything.  Wow, Roy called Townsend intelligent!  String him up now Rolling Eyes 

Anyway, I'll bet you it was Chris Smalling.  I have evidence to prove it:

1.  He was the butt of the joke (i.e. the spaceman that had nothing to do but feed the space monkey)

2.  It's likely his pride was hurt by articles such as this one, which suggest he's not good enough to play at this level: http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/england-2-poland-0-analysis-chris-smalling-proved-he-is-not-an-international-fullback-8882461.html

3.  He is of Black origin, so he would be of the right demographic to be offended by the term "monkey", which would add weight to the complaint.  (I should stress here that I'm against racism of any form and, had the term been used in a racist context, I'd be after Roy's head too.)

4.  He plays for the rags, and we all know what a bunch of precocious, ego driven bad losers they can be.

5.  His mentor is camel chops.  'nuff said.

That's my case for the prosecution.  Smalling, upset at being the butt of a joke in the dressing room and humiliated by press reports that he simply isn't good enough, decided to hit Roy where it hurts and play the race card.  Joy.  And I wonder if he'll come out and attack Townsend for defending the manager?  No doubt using the considerably more offensive term that his mentor used to describe Cashley Hole.  You know, the popular dairy treat, coated in a cocoa based confection, that used to be served in cinemas during the intermission before they all went multiplex-y...
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Post by blueboy Thu Oct 17, 2013 1:03 pm

hahaha....but it WASN'T a joke....it was an anecdote. 

Do the simple thing, let the others do what they do best. No doubt after Smalling came out with the ball thinking he was Vinny K!!

Even Rooney has tweeted saying it's all nonsense......wonder if Rooney will have a word with the culprit??
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Post by Topdawg Thu Oct 17, 2013 1:19 pm

The bounty hunters are here, searching for paradise...afro
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Post by leopold Thu Oct 17, 2013 1:23 pm

blueboy wrote:Even Rooney has tweeted saying it's all nonsense......wonder if Rooney will have a word with the culprit??
Makes a change from tweeting nonsense, I suppose Laughing
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Post by blueboy Thu Oct 17, 2013 1:25 pm

Chris Davies from The Sun has said that most jouno's know who it was and that if he doesn't come out and reveal himself, they will.

Seems the witch hunt is for the player!!
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Post by Topdawg Thu Oct 17, 2013 1:37 pm

I really hope they find the culprit and send him to Coventry.
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Post by blueboy Thu Oct 17, 2013 2:33 pm

poor Coventry!
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Post by leopold Thu Oct 17, 2013 2:35 pm

blueboy wrote:Chris Davies from The Sun has said that most jouno's know who it was and that if he doesn't come out and reveal himself, they will.

Seems the witch hunt is for the player!!
Wow!  That's Jessica Ennis levels of support from the press there!

Topdawg wrote:I really hope they find the culprit and send him to Coventry.
Poor Coventry.  Kicked out of their stadium, docked points and now the threat of a horrid turncoat playing for them Sad
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Post by Guest Thu Oct 17, 2013 3:20 pm

And exactly the reason I have not bought a tabloid for over 15 years.   It's a shame the rest of the country don't do the same, that would put a stop to it.

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Post by skyblueoz Thu Oct 17, 2013 4:25 pm

looks as though Coventry can,t win. I thought they had a transfer embargo on them, so can't even be sent a player. Talk about when your luck is out!!!!!
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Post by coolenglishbob Thu Oct 17, 2013 4:47 pm

When I played if the manager did not swear at us we knew something was wrong.Woy should put his foot down and when he finds out who blew the whistle he should definitely kick him out of the Brazil squad,thus proving that the team is bigger than the individual.The majority seem to go with Smalling,well if he is better than Richards, Robin Hood is turning out for Forrest next week!!Smile Smile

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Post by Jordan Thu Oct 17, 2013 6:28 pm

Sorry guys, this post has absolutely nothing to do with this thread but....

I GOT THE JOB!!!!!
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Post by Topdawg Thu Oct 17, 2013 7:04 pm

Congrats...what job?

Bigfoot's stunt double???
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Post by Paulpowersleftfoot Thu Oct 17, 2013 7:23 pm

Congrats Jordan
Soon you'll be able to buy a shaver you scruffy fucker
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Post by Jordan Thu Oct 17, 2013 7:25 pm

Thanks! I'm certain the beard did 75% of the work in the interviews - so it's here to stay! 

It's for a Projects & Relationship for Dunlop. I got made redundant in September, and basically said in 1 week you're gone, then luckily they asked to keep me on for a month so I leave on the 1st and start at the new place on the 4th. All worked out rather well..
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Post by Paulpowersleftfoot Thu Oct 17, 2013 7:39 pm

What on earth is that,projects & relationships?
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Post by Topdawg Thu Oct 17, 2013 7:41 pm

sounds like social work...for monkeys!
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Post by shakencity Thu Oct 17, 2013 8:20 pm

Smallings probably been listening to Ferdinand and decided to spout off.....tosser.


I agree with all above, the FA should back Roy and tell um to fuck off...id tell the source (Smalling) to aswell.

Jordan,
Congrats pal.
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Post by Guest Thu Oct 17, 2013 8:51 pm

Topdawg wrote:sounds like social work...for monkeys!
Dawg, have you learned nothing from todays news.   You can't talk about monkeys it will upset sensitive flowers from Old Toilet.

I really hope they name and shame him so we can all proper take the piss.

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Post by Jordan Thu Oct 17, 2013 10:30 pm

Project & Relationship Manager...oops
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Post by Topdawg Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:49 am

The two papers that ran the story should be banned from all FA stuff until they run full page apologies.

The coward that ran to them should be banned sine die.
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Post by Jordan Fri Oct 18, 2013 8:37 am

Do you think it will come out who it was? Surely the FA, Roy and the other players know who it was...
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Post by Paulpowersleftfoot Fri Oct 18, 2013 8:49 am

Widely reported as Smalling in twitter if that's to be believed
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Post by leopold Fri Oct 18, 2013 10:09 am

Well done on the new job, Jordan!

It seems my belief in Smalling being the culprit is shared by many.  What a joker.  However, in brighter news, the FA have been out in support of Roy, and basically told the Kick Racism Out mob that they've had no complaints from any of the players.  So that ends that, hopefully.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24577352

Roy makes a very astute point in the article too, basically saying they should be enjoying this period and instead they get this rubbish.  Good on him.
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Post by Topdawg Fri Oct 18, 2013 10:25 am

David Bond from the BBC was a cock yesterday with another article saying what Roy said was 'ill advised'. No it wasn't Bondy. What you wrote was ill advised cockslurping crap.
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Post by Guest Fri Oct 18, 2013 10:37 am

The trouble is the sole aim of any media company now seems to be to bring down successful people.  Any scent of blood and it is all they want to do.

Nothing is celebrated in this country anymore.   We can't say what we want because it may upset somebody.

We really do need to be more like the French! They take no shit from anybody.

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Post by blueboy Fri Oct 18, 2013 10:53 am

Topdawg wrote:David Bond from the BBC was a cock yesterday with another article saying what Roy said was 'ill advised'. No it wasn't Bondy. What you wrote was ill advised cockslurping crap.
Cockslurping crap?????WTF?Razz Razz Razz Razz Razz 

You and Wensdi in competition?
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Post by Topdawg Fri Oct 18, 2013 11:29 am

The French give plenty of shit but don't want to take any shit back.
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Post by ManCityMan Fri Oct 18, 2013 2:09 pm

Firstly, this was spacist not racist, secondly why in god's name would you send anybody to Coventry? and thirdly well done on the job Jordan!!
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Post by leopold Fri Oct 18, 2013 2:40 pm

ManCityMan wrote:why in god's name would you send anybody to Coventry?
It's one of those odd English phrases that nobody knows the origin of.
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Post by skyblueoz Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:20 pm

I thought the origin of sending one to Coventry was because it was so badly destroyed during the war that nobody would want to go there as nothing was left.
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Post by blueboy Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:34 pm

you 3 must stop......NOW!!!Very Happy
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Post by leopold Fri Oct 18, 2013 11:53 pm

skyblueoz wrote:I thought the origin of sending one to Coventry was because it was so badly destroyed during the war that nobody would want to go there as nothing was left.
That's one theory, although there's another one that says it was used well before that.

blueboy wrote:you 3 must stop......NOW!!!Very Happy
Make us! Razz
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Post by skyblueoz Sat Oct 19, 2013 5:00 am

I would've gone to Coventry if a lady godiva was still doing the rounds!!!!!
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Post by Topdawg Sat Oct 19, 2013 5:08 am

Wensdi....
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Post by ManCityMan Sat Oct 19, 2013 5:20 pm

She would need a long wig....or maybe not Very Happy
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Post by skyblueoz Sun Oct 20, 2013 5:49 am

has she got the horse then?
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Post by ManCityMan Mon Oct 21, 2013 12:22 pm

don't know but i think she's got the hump Razz
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