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Post by Topdawg Fri Oct 03, 2014 8:07 am

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/paul-scholes-column-fans-need-to-intimidate-opponents--manchester-city-supporters-arent-doing-that-9771192.html

No matter how much we may dislike him, I don't think he's far wrong.


The first thing that struck me when I got to the Etihad Stadium on Tuesday night was whether the home support had even realised what an important game it was for their team against Roma.

I know a lot has been made of what I said on Tuesday and my criticism of Manchester City fans has been seen as harsh, but I have made the point before about how important their role is on big European nights like this, and it’s a point I felt was relevant again when I was sat in the ITV studio that evening. City’s team is capable of anything. They have the quality of players to win the Champions League, although they did not play well against Roma. One of the problems that they have is a lack of atmosphere on European nights when the crowd should play a big part.
The Champions League is a competition in which you have to win your home games. It is true that some of those lower-profile group matches I played in at Manchester United were in front of a more subdued Old Trafford, but that was never the case when the team needed to win. It is the same at Anfield, and it was like that at Elland Road too when Leeds United were in the competition 14 years ago. The supporters came through for them.

On Tuesday it got closer and closer to kick-off and I waited for the stadium to come alive. It never happened. There were empty seats, some 8,000 below capacity – and I accept that watching football is an expensive business. But I found it hard to understand why even those who were there did not seem to grasp the reality that City had to beat Roma.

The relationship between a team and a home crowd is crucial. The performance lifts the crowd, but in turn the players need that encouragement from the support to get them going. I was no different as a player. Appealing to the crowd for more noise, or exuberant goal celebrations were not my thing. But just because I did not show that emotion did not mean I was not responding to the atmosphere.
We went to San Siro in 2007 for a semi-final second leg against Milan, losing 3-0 on the night and 5-3 on aggregate. I will always remember Rino Gattuso at the start of the game running out and exhorting the home crowd to make more noise. He burst out on to the pitch like one of those NFL players who run through a paper banner when they come out of the tunnel. The atmosphere went up a few notches and he responded by having a great game, particularly in the way he handled Cristiano Ronaldo.

The atmosphere at places like Bayern Munich, Barcelona and Real Madrid was always the same. When United arrived they tried to make it as intimidating as possible and one of the features of the game we would discuss beforehand was trying to keep the ball in the early stages to quieten the home crowd.
At home, your support have to make it intimidating. On Tuesday night it was as if the home fans weren’t really bothered. I have wondered in the past if the City fans are still admiring the famous names who are now playing at their ground, rather than trying to make it a difficult place to visit.
I think City have big problems in Group E. Roma are a good team, as good as Bayern Munich this season. The old Uefa seeding system has given City a hard group but I can remember the 1998-99 season when United had Barcelona and Bayern Munich in our group. You just have to find a way to progress.
Like a lot of European teams, Roma operate best by controlling the midfield and that is what they did on Tuesday. By using two strikers, City played into their hands. It is obvious that in Europe, Yaya Touré cannot play in the two in front of the defence. Roberto Mancini played him further up the pitch. Sergio Aguero plays better with someone alongside him but that can create a four v two situation in the middle of midfield.
At times it was impossible for Touré and Fernandinho when Francesco Totti dropped back into midfield to add to the numbers. It was like City had never watched Roma before. Opposing teams should know what they do. When United teams played against Totti, albeit a few years ago now, we knew that Roma tried to get the ball to their captain early and play off him. We knew if you dealt with Totti then you went a long way to stopping Roma from playing.

Sometimes in Europe you have to sacrifice a part of your team. Perhaps, for instance, you have to play with just one up to increase the numbers in midfield. When Frank Lampard came on he made a difference. He was clever enough to add to the numbers in City’s midfield but he also got forward.
James Milner had an impact too when he came on. When I was still playing it seemed that when City came to Old Trafford, Milner would play. Mancini knew what he would get from him. Sometimes I think Milner suffers because he does not have a big European reputation and that means he gets left out. But he can defend and get forward. City need to find a way of winning their home games in Europe. It is a fundamental part of being successful in the Champions League.
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Post by shakencity Fri Oct 03, 2014 8:21 am

Much the same as yesterday Dawg.....the club needs to lower the prices in the CL to get the place full, then the atmosphere takes care of itself.

CSKA won't bring as many as Roma did, so that could leave upto 9-10,000 unsold seats.....this is something the club certainly needs to address.
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Post by Topdawg Fri Oct 03, 2014 8:23 am

CSKA aren't as big a name as Roma and I bet some fans are bored with having to play them yet again.

If we can't beat them at home, big crowd and lots of noise or not, we don't deserve to be in the next round.
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Post by shakencity Fri Oct 03, 2014 8:35 am

Topdawg wrote:If we can't beat them at home, big crowd and lots of noise or not, we don't deserve to be in the next round.

Valid point!!
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Post by blueboy Fri Oct 03, 2014 9:03 am

I'll be there!!!! Very Happy
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Post by Topdawg Fri Oct 03, 2014 9:13 am

church mouse...
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