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Post by blueboy on Wed Mar 22, 2017 3:13 pm

http://news.sky.com/story/live-police-officer-stabbed-and-assailant-shot-10810697

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Post by blueboy on Wed Mar 22, 2017 3:17 pm

http://news.sky.com/watch-live

Reports of witnesses seeing up to 10 people laying prone on the ground after a car drove up along the pavement....a Police Officer stabbed and gun shots being heard.....

Asian guy being chased with an 8" knife...SF guys on scene within 2 mins.

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Post by blueboy on Wed Mar 22, 2017 3:21 pm

Reports now saying the assailant was shot dead.

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Post by Topdawg on Wed Mar 22, 2017 3:22 pm

It's kind of lucky that most of these attacks are perpetrated by idiots who really just 'go for it' without much forward thinking.
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Post by Topdawg on Wed Mar 22, 2017 3:23 pm

Reports that paramedics trying to resuscitate someone. Don't know if it assailant or injured innocent bystander
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Post by Topdawg on Wed Mar 22, 2017 3:24 pm

trying to watch this live whilst my son plays pussycat on his harp!
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Post by blueboy on Wed Mar 22, 2017 3:25 pm

Now saying he was injured. Shame - the motherfucker!

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Post by Topdawg on Wed Mar 22, 2017 3:26 pm

one image looks like someone is very seriously hurt on the bridge. Looks very serious for one person.
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Post by Topdawg on Wed Mar 22, 2017 3:28 pm

"There are also reports of further violent incidents in the vicinity of the Palace of Westminster but I hope colleagues on all sides will appreciate that it'd be wrong of me to go into further details until we have confirmation from the police and from the House security authorities about what is going on."
An eye witness, Radoslaw Sikorski, a senior fellow at Harvard's Centre for European Studies, posted a video to Twitter purporting to show people lying injured in the road on Westminster Bridge.
He wrote: "A car on Westminster Bridge has just mowed down at least 5 people."
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Post by TMG on Wed Mar 22, 2017 3:29 pm

Not looking good several injured on the bridge. Ill be amazed if there's no fatalities. Lets hope the terrorist dies - Slowly and painfully preferably
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Post by blueboy on Wed Mar 22, 2017 3:29 pm

You only have to look at the Laptop ban on all flights to the USA from the MENA region....clear intelligence of an attack.

It's starting here as well....and wouldn't surprise if the ban extends to all flights.

Teaching an Aviation Security Instructors course next week as well....

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Post by Topdawg on Wed Mar 22, 2017 3:37 pm

I'm surprised that it's not all airlines and all flights.
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Post by Topdawg on Wed Mar 22, 2017 3:40 pm

It's like the attacker in Orly last Saturday who was really unprepared and ended up getting shot. Just lucky these guys didn't have guns.
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Post by blueboy on Wed Mar 22, 2017 3:40 pm

Intelligence clearly see's the threat from that region, but wouldn't surprise me if this extends to all flights.....

Got some delegates from that region on the courses as well.  Shocked

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Post by blueboy on Wed Mar 22, 2017 3:41 pm

Sounds like multiple perps....though reports are sketchy.

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Post by Topdawg on Wed Mar 22, 2017 3:43 pm

Looks like a brave copper got stabbed whilst confronting the guy with the knife and he was quickly shot after ignoring warnings.
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Post by Topdawg on Wed Mar 22, 2017 3:43 pm

Sounds like two guys involved.
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Post by Topdawg on Wed Mar 22, 2017 3:44 pm

And the airlines situation, anyone can just choose another airline or another country of departure. Maybe the security searches will be more thorough elsewhere, but it's got to be a worry.
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Post by blueboy on Wed Mar 22, 2017 3:44 pm

So much for stab vests....let's hope it's nothing serious.

SF guys searching for other possible perps....as it there were multiple incidents, but probably just this lunatic.

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Post by blueboy on Wed Mar 22, 2017 3:46 pm

Topdawg wrote:And the airlines situation, anyone can just choose another airline or another country of departure. Maybe the security searches will be more thorough elsewhere, but it's got to be a worry.

Yep....be a pain in the arse to pack laptops in baggage - as it's against Dangerous Goods regulations because of the danger of Lithium Ion batteries in them.

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Post by blueboy on Wed Mar 22, 2017 3:48 pm

Terrorism.....to spread fear and disruption. Doesn't have to be a major incident to cause widespread disruption and fear, like this incident. The consequences will be long-reaching.....bridges possibly patrolled, random searches of tourists etc.

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Post by Topdawg on Wed Mar 22, 2017 3:57 pm

Look what happened in the 70s and 80s with the IRA. Lots of Irish people were treated with suspicion.
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Post by blueboy on Wed Mar 22, 2017 4:00 pm

Think that's already happening Dawg in UK and other major cities. It's a by-product of the profile of the suspects and a natural human reaction - rightly or wrongly.

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Post by blueboy on Wed Mar 22, 2017 4:04 pm

A witness just claimed they were on the bus over Westminster bridge and they heard gunshots, then the vehicle swerved across and mowed people down.

Maybe that's incorrect and she's struggling to recount the history so quickly after the event, but if true, were the gunshots at the vehicle the cause for it to swerve?

The vehicle seemed to have carried on as it crashed into gates of Parliament.


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Post by blueboy on Wed Mar 22, 2017 4:05 pm

A witness says he saw bodies on the bridge....and in the water. Not good.

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Post by Topdawg on Wed Mar 22, 2017 4:05 pm

I guess many of us were suspicious of any Irish people back in the day. I guess that's a 'normal' human reaction. 

One crazed guy makes many people panic and fills them with fear.
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Post by Topdawg on Wed Mar 22, 2017 4:06 pm

It would be odd to shoot at the car on the bridge (unless they were following him or had some intelligence).

I think we'll learn a lot more in the next hours.
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Post by blueboy on Wed Mar 22, 2017 4:07 pm

agree....

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Post by blueboy on Wed Mar 22, 2017 4:11 pm

1 woman dead and many others with "catastrophic injuries"

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Post by Topdawg on Wed Mar 22, 2017 4:13 pm

hospital reports one woman has dies and others with catastrophic injuries
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Post by Topdawg on Wed Mar 22, 2017 4:13 pm

bomb squad called
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Post by blueboy on Wed Mar 22, 2017 4:17 pm

standard procedure...maybe the attacker had something in the vehicle or maybe there may be more attackers, or a diversionary tactic for something bigger.

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Post by Topdawg on Wed Mar 22, 2017 4:18 pm

reports of package in car
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Post by Topdawg on Wed Mar 22, 2017 4:18 pm

lots of extra security for football matches, especially FA cup semis and final
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Post by blueboy on Wed Mar 22, 2017 4:19 pm

You wouldn't want a piss if you were on the London Eye! They've shut it down with people stuck on it!

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Post by Topdawg on Wed Mar 22, 2017 4:20 pm

yeah, read about that. kids would be going mental.
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Post by Topdawg on Wed Mar 22, 2017 4:25 pm

We normally stay in Westminster when we visit London so we are always on Embankment and crossing the bridge to St James' Park.

Supposed to be in London next weekend so hope things are back to something like normal.
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Post by blueboy on Wed Mar 22, 2017 4:39 pm

2 confirmed dead now...

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Post by blueboy on Wed Mar 22, 2017 5:00 pm

Can only see that number rising, sadly.

Just had a FB message from an ex SF mate who said "call themselves soldiers? Put on a uniform and let's get it on...I'll happily sign back up, but they won't because they're cowards who would rather target civilians, than trained armed soldiers".

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Post by blueboy on Wed Mar 22, 2017 5:05 pm

3 French students injured and 3 Police Officers injured.

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Post by blueboy on Wed Mar 22, 2017 5:08 pm

Woman pulled alive from the Thames....

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Post by ManCityMan on Wed Mar 22, 2017 5:19 pm

My wife was in Westminster for a meeting on Monday and walked over that bridge, makes me shudder to imagine how lucky she was. Very sad for the families of these innocent people.
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Post by blueboy on Wed Mar 22, 2017 5:53 pm

Police Officer confirmed dead.

Ironically, I emailed clients in Brussels Airport this morning who have been holding a memorial on the anniversary of the bombing at the airport....I was the there before that bomb went off!

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Post by blueboy on Wed Mar 22, 2017 6:07 pm

4 dead

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Post by TMG on Wed Mar 22, 2017 6:36 pm

At least the animal is dead One bit of good news I suppose
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Post by blueboy on Wed Mar 22, 2017 6:42 pm

Let's hope he left a trail....so the Intelligence service can find any associates.

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Post by TMG on Wed Mar 22, 2017 6:56 pm

Do u really need any associates to carry out this atrocity
Any Tom Dick or Mohammed can drive a vehicle at pedestrians anywhere in the world & security services can do sweet FA about it
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Post by Topdawg on Wed Mar 22, 2017 7:05 pm

There's not much you can do if someone acts alone in this manner.
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Post by blueboy on Wed Mar 22, 2017 10:17 pm

It's not about 'this' incident....it's about what other potential plans could be in place and if anybody else is involved...as well as any radicalisation that took place and by whom.

You only have to look at the arrest taken place in Germany and Belgium recently......numerous further arrests took place which probably prevented further attacks...and those individuals were originally classed as ' a lone wolf attack....'a mental case'.


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Post by ManCityMan on Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:40 pm

TMG wrote:At least the animal is dead One bit of good news I suppose
Actually i would rather they shot him in the legs and incapacitated him then he would not have accomplished what these nutters all want, to become a martyr and ascend to paradise with the dozens of virgins awaiting. He could then have spent the rest of days in a maximum security prison instead. I'm sure if they thought that was how it was going to end they would be less willing to participate if they thought there was no martyrdom awaiting.
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