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MP's win % only topped by Maureen and Taggert.
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Re: MP's win % only topped by Maureen and Taggert.
He should be top though blue, the fact he's not is why he's being replaced.
shakencity- Cult Hero
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Re: MP's win % only topped by Maureen and Taggert.
With what we've got at our disposal, he should be top.
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Re: MP's win % only topped by Maureen and Taggert.
I disagree with the he should be top. If you look at what Taggart had at his disposal with only Arsenal as challengers for many years then Chelsea & mourinho again with very little in the way of challengers. Now with revenue being paid at ridiculous rates plus all the other ways of generating incomes we are seeing the premier league clubs getting much closer in terms of abilities, Yes we have some great players but so do four or five other clubs hence why the league is far more open.
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Re: MP's win % only topped by Maureen and Taggert.
I tend to agree Oz.
Wenger, after all that he's had at his disposal, in the CL every single year, the finances etc - he should be easily above MP.
As you said, Taggert dominated for nearly 15 years, pretty much unchallenged and then with Abramovich's money, Chelsea took that crown....yes, MP has had money to burn as well, but considering he's not yet completed 3 years, to be above Wenger is a decent return.
Yes, where would he have been if this team would have been leading the PL by now? Probably closer to the top.
Wenger, after all that he's had at his disposal, in the CL every single year, the finances etc - he should be easily above MP.
As you said, Taggert dominated for nearly 15 years, pretty much unchallenged and then with Abramovich's money, Chelsea took that crown....yes, MP has had money to burn as well, but considering he's not yet completed 3 years, to be above Wenger is a decent return.
Yes, where would he have been if this team would have been leading the PL by now? Probably closer to the top.
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Re: MP's win % only topped by Maureen and Taggert.
Valid points Oz, but sorry i disagree.
Only 3 wins out of his 37 games not won, would have seen MP at the top. But for his stubbornness, tactically inept decision, shit selections, formations and substitutions, etc, etc, those 3 wins should have been achieved throughout his time with us.
Only 3 wins out of his 37 games not won, would have seen MP at the top. But for his stubbornness, tactically inept decision, shit selections, formations and substitutions, etc, etc, those 3 wins should have been achieved throughout his time with us.
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Re: MP's win % only topped by Maureen and Taggert.
got to agree with this. 0-0 away at a dismal Villa side a few months back is just one example.shakencity wrote:Valid points Oz, but sorry i disagree.
Only 3 wins out of his 37 games not won, would have seen MP at the top. But for his stubbornness, tactically inept decision, shit selections, formations and substitutions, etc, etc, those 3 wins should have been achieved throughout his time with us.
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Re: MP's win % only topped by Maureen and Taggert.
Hold on....he's 3rd behind Taggert and Mourinho and we're pointing out to the fact we drew 0-0 to Villa???
Really???
Didn't Taggert and Mourinho lose games during their tenure against poor opposition?
We could still go on a run of wins until the end of the season in the PL, possibly win it.
Come on, we've all give him pelters on here, but 3rd ahead of Wenger is still 3rd ahead of Wenger!!
Really???
Didn't Taggert and Mourinho lose games during their tenure against poor opposition?
We could still go on a run of wins until the end of the season in the PL, possibly win it.
Come on, we've all give him pelters on here, but 3rd ahead of Wenger is still 3rd ahead of Wenger!!
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Re: MP's win % only topped by Maureen and Taggert.
Sorry, Wenger's finished, on average, 3-4th most seasons. We've finished 1st or 2nd with Pellegrini. If we win the league this year, he'll probably have a higher win % than any of those mentioned and I'll take back a little criticism of him.
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Re: MP's win % only topped by Maureen and Taggert.
I'm personally not pointing to any games in particular, just his record in general. Ask yourself why City haven't played well this season, haven't beat any of the top 5 or 6, are 4th in the league and currently 10pts behind the leaders.
I guess it's all about opinions blue and in mine he should be top......It's been down to him that he's not and the team's in the position it's in .
I guess it's all about opinions blue and in mine he should be top......It's been down to him that he's not and the team's in the position it's in .
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Re: MP's win % only topped by Maureen and Taggert.
shakencity wrote:I'm personally not pointing to any games in particular, just his record in general. Ask yourself why City haven't played well this season, haven't beat any of the top 5 or 6, are 4th in the league and currently 10pts behind the leaders.
I guess it's all about opinions blue and in mine he should be top......It's been down to him that he's not and the team's in the position it's in .
OK....if you believe it's MP's fault for this, why, what has he done to make us lose/draw those games?
For me, the injuries have gone against us, and the fact we didn't strengthen well in the summer. Now, I don't know if that's down to the manager, or whether City decided not to over-spend after getting Sterling and KDB, or, who in fact wanted those players ahead of additional defenders and another striker.
Personally, he's made some odd decisions, but the players have been out of form and the injuries have been awful - all season.
blueboy- Legend
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Re: MP's win % only topped by Maureen and Taggert.
By your own admission, continually playing with 10 men this season hasn't helped
shakencity- Cult Hero
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Re: MP's win % only topped by Maureen and Taggert.
Hmmm, don't steal my wrath. There's plenty on here that have disagreed with my comments over the past 18 months.
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