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Post by lee1pen Thu Nov 17, 2011 9:36 am

England crocks who should never play again no matter what the pundits think. The reason being that though they have been good players, could still potentially do a job for England their continued presence in the team/squad is hampering a settled England Team.

Gerrard....everyone says that he should be back when fit. Why? we all know that in 3 gams time he will be out injured again.

Ferdinand ..again injuries catching up with him but also lack of pace. We either bite the bullet and play with either Terry or Ferdinand but not both. Similar dilema to the Lampard/gerrard question

King, good player but has to be managed. With his history of injuries should never have been considered for England in the last 6 years.

Owen. Still dreams of returning. Dream on.

Hargreaves, might have a cameo role to play for City but yet again injury should rule out any return no matter how fit he is.

Its time to move forward and for Journos and ex players to stop trying to cram their favorites down fans throats with lines like "if he's fit he should play". NOOOOO if he is going to get injured for the next game, and chances are all of the above will do, then they are just disrupting England from getting a settled side.
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Post by Topdawg Thu Nov 17, 2011 10:08 am

I;d still be interested in a fit gerrard and hargreaves.

The others should be put out to pasture.
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Post by lee1pen Thu Nov 17, 2011 10:12 am

Dawg, thats the problem, a fit Gerrard is fine but if he's fit for 1 game then missing 3 then picked again because he's Stevie G then sorry thats not the message England should be sending out to the other 20+ players in the squad.
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Post by Topdawg Thu Nov 17, 2011 10:19 am

he has to prove his fitness now.

if he is fit until then end of the season, then he should be given a go.

after the euros, he needs to move over anyway.
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Post by Wensdi Thu Nov 17, 2011 1:56 pm

Think Leighton Baines earned his spot. He played really well the other night. For a guy who thought he wasn't good enough for the Prem - he needs to get under Mancini's wing;)
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