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Post by Topdawg Tue Dec 10, 2013 7:15 pm

First topic message reminder :

Hart, Kolarov, Lescott, Demichelis, Richards, Fernandinho, Garcia, Milner, Silva, Navas, Dzeko

Not looking like worldbeaters but Silva will get some game time and we'll miss none of them, except Fernandinho, if they get injured.
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Post by Guest Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:08 pm

All out to top the group now! What's the betting Garcia gets it just to rub our faces in it

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Post by blueboy Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:09 pm

meltonblue wrote:Whys it down to the manager? The same players have got it back to 2-2 and been the better team this half. What did you expect him to do? Play a full strength team in a game that doesn't matter that much just before we play arsenal in the middle of a busy month? If he'd have done that, then I would have been angry.



I apologise. You're right so far Melton. Second half has been a completely different performance 
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Post by meltonblue Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:10 pm

Of course there is, who else is he going to play? Aguero every game? Kolorov and Dzeko have been good tonight, this second half, Garcia has as well to be honest.
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Post by Nijinsky Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:10 pm

2 - 3 

Will MP go for it and bring on Sergio and Negredo
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Post by meltonblue Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:12 pm

Btw, I never thought I would say that sentence!

Blueboy, just watch fernandinho and the positions he has taken up in this game - he cuts out so many potential passes for the opposition. Honestly, he is and will be a class act for us.
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Post by titbumwilly Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:13 pm

If he'd used other players this season instead of those three, we'd have more options for games like this.
So Kolorov and Garcia have had one good half all season? Big deal
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Post by meltonblue Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:14 pm

Like who?
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Post by meltonblue Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:15 pm

Kolorov has had a few good games. Clichy has been godawful at times too.
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Post by titbumwilly Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:15 pm

Disagree with you Melton on Garcia Kolorov and Dzeko, but agree wholeheartedly on Fernandinho
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Post by blueboy Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:17 pm

Very Happy Melton, I've never said he isn't a good player... I've praised him for his performances, it's Garcia who I have the biggest problem with. But after tonight, WTF do I know???
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Post by blueboy Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:19 pm

Still time for another fuck up though! Just saying that in the hope Garcia runs with the ball for 30 yards and bangs in a screamer!!! Razz
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Post by meltonblue Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:20 pm

I'm just saying all he can do is utilise the squad he has, Dzeko up top was the right choice tonight as was Kolorov because it gave us a quick out ball - Dzeko has won virtually every header he has gone for. Toure has looked nackered recently, he needed a break and is rather that be now and he be fit for Arsenal. Kompany, again, not worth the risk.

These are players that would not be in his first XI but he has played them in the right game tonight regardless of the result and he has got them playing well. I'm sorry, but he has got it spot on tonight against probably the best team in the world.

Now watch us lose 4-3 Wink
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Post by shakencity Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:22 pm

Yaya was always gonna get a break tonight Glyn....he was suspended  Laughing  Laughing  Laughing  Laughing  Laughing
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Post by meltonblue Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:25 pm

Ha! Alright, Aguero then!
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Post by titbumwilly Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:26 pm

We'll, on tonight's evidence, I can only bow to your opinion fella!
I will always admit if I'm wrong!
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Post by Guest Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:26 pm

As their confidence has grown so has the performance from all. I've been very impressed tbh since getting the 1st goal back.

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Post by blueboy Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:30 pm

Aguero last 5??? Come on... 3-2 and we bring Rodwell on? 3-2 means the same as getting beat 5-0! Don't get it. Sorry.
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Post by Guest Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:31 pm

Bm wasting time losing 2-3 we've got the scared

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Post by meltonblue Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:32 pm

Titbumwilly,

I do get your point mate, but as I said on a different thread, I think Pellegrini wants to make more changes to the playing staff. At the same time, he plays a different brand of football to Mancini, it will take some players more time to adjust to it. Dzeko isn't bad overnight, he needs to press for the system to work and as soon as he (and the midfield) did, the defence were no longer exposed and stopped making silly mistakes.

The exact same transition happened at Malaga and Madrid as well with Pellegrini, all I'm saying is he knows what he is doing. It may take a season and wel only fully reap the rewards next year, but if it sets us up for the future, then I'm happy with it. I wrote something about him on a different forum about him, I'll post it on here later as it's quite a lengthy one!
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Post by Topdawg Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:35 pm

We are right at them at times and they don't like it.
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Post by shakencity Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:36 pm

If anything, it's proved we don't need to fear anyone.

Well done City!!!!!
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Post by Topdawg Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:37 pm

Fernandinho my MOTM
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Post by shakencity Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:40 pm

Topdawg wrote:Fernandinho my MOTM
Agreed, but I thought Demichellis played well too
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Post by Nijinsky Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:42 pm

I agree Shaken I like the aggression Demichellis brings
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Post by bellyblue Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:43 pm

Proud of the commitment tonight ALL the player give 100% Great spirit... more of that Sat and i will be happy!!  Fernandinho getting better every game.
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Post by meltonblue Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:43 pm

Fernandinho, Dzeko, Milner second half and Demichelis for me. Zabaleta did very well after coming on as well
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Post by Guest Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:44 pm

Hold my hands up, whole team did well once they decided to play. Get our head space right and we should not fear anyone.

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Post by blueboy Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:44 pm

Good result...but at 3-2 it would've been great to see us introduce Aguero and get that 4th goal... Because as good as a result that was...it means absolutely nothing. We're still second in the group. I hate to pick on the negative after a historic win away at Bayern..but it's an opportunity missed. Well done to all the team in the second half.. MP must have given them a hair dryer moment after that first half. As poor as we were in the first half, Bayern were as bad in the second. 

Really didn't see or hear of Garcia all game...and for a DMF against Bayern, that says something!!
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Post by meltonblue Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:46 pm

I thought Garcia was really good second half to be honest. The problem with him is he suits a three man midfield, which we don't usually play.

With Aguero, I think he thought take the win and move on - it's a big confidence booster more than anything else. Had he come on and done what Richards did, we'd have said why risk bringing him on.
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Post by shakencity Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:49 pm

Richards needs to be moved on.....end of
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Post by blueboy Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:50 pm

Agree. Time Micah goes...
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Post by blueboy Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:57 pm

Just heard MP interviewed...I don't think he has a clue about the fact that we only needed only one more goal!!!! He said, if we got another goal, we'd have brought Aguero on!!! What????
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Post by meltonblue Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:58 pm

I saw that as well blueboy! Wtf?!
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Post by Guest Tue Dec 10, 2013 10:00 pm

Agree shaken, shame but true.

Fook me though, they didn't know they only needed 1 more goal! I really despair !!!!!

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Post by Topdawg Tue Dec 10, 2013 10:02 pm

Yep, Pellers got it wrong and our shitty support staff didn't help him out.

He said it'd be tough to score the two goals (at 3-2) which is why he didn't bring Aguero on.

What a fuck up.
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Post by blueboy Tue Dec 10, 2013 10:02 pm

Sorry, but that's nothing short of incompetence. He clearly said, we needed 2 goals....there's no language issue there. That's why I was confused...we needed one goal...and he brought Rodwell on! 

This night just gets more bizarre.!

Great win boys...big fuck up by MP and his staff.

Embarrassing.
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Post by Topdawg Tue Dec 10, 2013 10:04 pm

Rather than talk about the win we are gonna end up talking about the amateurish management.
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Post by blueboy Tue Dec 10, 2013 10:05 pm

And you know what? 

Will the papers concentrate on our team beating BM away 3-2?

Will they fuck. We'll be a laughing stock come the papers tomorrow.

MP? Dear oh dear...pathetic.
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Post by blueboy Tue Dec 10, 2013 10:05 pm

Me and you Dawg seem to be overlapping our thoughts!!  Very Happy
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Post by blueboy Tue Dec 10, 2013 10:33 pm

Not sure, even with MP's post match press conference..he had a fucking clue what was on offer tonight!!
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Post by meltonblue Tue Dec 10, 2013 10:37 pm

Well, if he didn't realise what we needed going into the last 5 minutes................he's definitely a city manager!
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Post by Topdawg Tue Dec 10, 2013 10:38 pm

Let's just be happy we got the win, banked an extra £1M, put in the effort required to have half a chance. That'll do for me.

And let's not forget, teams in the prem will also sit up and take notice.
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Post by meltonblue Tue Dec 10, 2013 10:40 pm

"Let's just be happy we got the win, banked an extra £1M, put in the effort required to have half a chance. That'll do for me."


The best thing from tonight is the coefficient points that will last 5 years. That win should get us into pot 2 for the foreseeable. 
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Post by Topdawg Tue Dec 10, 2013 10:43 pm

I'm not sure how much that'll help us on the coefficient but every little helps!
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Post by blueboy Tue Dec 10, 2013 10:46 pm

I'm really happy with the win..I'm just not looking forward to how the press will berate MP tomorrow and make us look stupid after a great result.
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Post by Topdawg Tue Dec 10, 2013 10:52 pm

Looking at the coefficients, we are down in 25th at the moment. After this run, we are guaranteed to rise 3 place minimum and maybe an extra couple of places depending on tomorrow nights results.

From next season, we'll start to drop that terrible 3.85 points for 5 seasons ago.

Also noticed that Europa League also gives 2 points for a win and 1 for a draw which is exactly the same as the CL. That aint right.
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Post by meltonblue Tue Dec 10, 2013 10:53 pm

"I'm not sure how much that'll help us on the coefficient but every little helps!"


Because a win is worth 2 coefficient points and we need all we can get after last year. 


We set a new record tonight as well. Highest amount of points but not winning the group.
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Post by titbumwilly Tue Dec 10, 2013 10:53 pm

After that first 15 minutes I'm just happy with the win.
It showed that, no matter who we play, we should have the confidence to be positive.
So we f*cked up with the number of goals required! but to win the tournament we can't avoid the big teams. I guarantee that nobody will want to draw us.
F*ck me! we beat the best team in Europe in their own ground with Garcia, Kolorov and Dzeko starting, so anything is possible!
My love/hate relationship with MP has worn me out tonight. Now I don't know if he's a genius or a f*ckwit! I suspect it's somewhere in between the two.
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Post by leopold Tue Dec 10, 2013 11:16 pm

blueboy wrote:And you know what? 

Will the papers concentrate on our team beating BM away 3-2?

Will they fuck. We'll be a laughing stock come the papers tomorrow.

MP? Dear oh dear...pathetic.
Yeah, because that'll be a really easy sell.  I suppose it might've helped if we'd beaten the current European champions in their own back yard after going two behind in the first ten minutes, a team who've not lost at home in christ knows how long, the same team that thrashed us at our place a couple of months ago, or even if we'd won three out of three away games in the CL when we're allegedly struggling on the road.

Oh, wait...  Rolling Eyes 

Laughing stock.  Yeah, that's just so funny, turning round a bad start and picking up a massive win on the road against Bayern.  We're such a laugh, us lot, that Arsenal are probably shitting themselves at the prospect of meeting such a joke club.

Somehow, I don't think there's much laughter going on right now.  There certainly isn't on here, you bunch of miserable gits  Razz
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Post by Guest Tue Dec 10, 2013 11:17 pm

10 straight wins in champs league and they started with 8 of the players that started at ours. They certainly are beatable. Maybe the fact we played Garcia, Kolarov and Dzeko was the master stroke needed to throw them off their stride.

I too say celebrate the win rather than our lack of mathematic skills.

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Post by Guest Tue Dec 10, 2013 11:22 pm

Although city's official twitter knew the permutations

65. If City were to score another and win 4-2, we'd win the group! City fans roaring their team on up on the top corner of the stadium!

Shame The bench didn't but still celebrating the win ;-)

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