Mancini Sacked

Not really what I wanted. Don't think I'll be too happy if Pellegrini is appointed. We should really have gave him another season as no one is available.

Thoughts?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22507128

Even though it seemed inevitable, I am sad now that it has happened.

Thanks for the good times Bobby.

Very sad indeed. So much for stability
Unless its The Special one I think it's a stupid decision

I agree Tony - I'm one of the first to criticise Mancini, but who else is there really? Ridiculous decision unless we are getting a world class proven manager in. Which I don't think we are.

Can't exactly complain with 3 trophies in as many seasons. Oh well, back to usual City I guess. It was nice whilst it lasted.

I just hope we don't do a Chelski. I'd rather go back to the days of Port Vale and Gillingham.

Inevitable. I didn't want to see it end like this.

Couldn't care less about Pellegrini. Ancelotti would be my pick.

I can't honestly compute the news right now, my head is still picking over the FA Cup carcass...

The poor bloke's not even gonna get a send off. Absolutely fucking disgusting. Surely they could have waited until the end of the season

Well, at least we now know why the club didn't deny the reports. But it beggars logic that they'd just sack him without so much as a mention, even if it was a case of, "Look, it's not good, we're going to let you go soon."

As TMG said, so much for stability. Who the hell are we going to get now?

TMG wrote:The poor bloke's not even gonna get a send off. Absolutely fucking disgusting. Surely they could have waited until the end of the season

I hadn't even thought of that. But you're damn right, it is disgusting. I'm sure the powers that be must've heard our chants of support for Bobby during the final, we sang it loudly enough!

"Despite everyone’s best efforts, the Club has failed to achieve any of
its stated targets this year, with the exception of qualification for
next season’s UEFA Champions League. This, combined with an identified
need to develop a holistic approach to all aspects of football at the
Club, has meant that the decision has been taken to find a new manager
for the 2013/14 season and beyond."

A holistic approach? What does that even mean in football managerial terms?

Well, it was inevitable.....it's sad, but even sadder watching that load of shite he has selected this season and the lack of team selection, tactics and motivation is beyond belief for somebody on the salary he was getting.
Thanks for the trophies, but let's be fair.....we have gone backwards this season and that can only be down to Mancini.
The players don't seem to want to play for him. His substitutions have been the worse of any manager this season in the PL..........and all in all, it's been an absolute shit brand of football we've played.
I don't want Pellegrini either for what it's worth..........and if Mourinho hasn't been lined up for the job, I'll be really surprised....as otherwise, why sack him now? Opening the door for Mourinho to change his plans?
I want Mourinho or Patrick Viera!!

Yeah so if we dont get Mourinho WTF is the point of sacking him. I bet we haven't even got anyone lined up. Typical City. Why do we have to make a pig's ear of almost everything

because that is the City way...
if United fans were'nt pished enough already they will have an extra tipple now...

Blueboy--I agree with some of your condemnation of Mancini,but have you seen his
win to lost ratio whilst at City?It is on a par with any other manager in the league and definitely better than any other manager below us.He deserves every penny he gets in compensation,and hopefully he will get a position with Monaco next season,the ethics in football are crap

Well......I was one calling for his head.......but what on earth is the board thinking.......we have just become a damn laughing stock from the inept display at the weekend, the amount of stick I have received in light of Saturdays performance I am sure has been repeated for all city fans on here........and now more ammunition for the snipers and the red tops and talkshoite.......with only 2 games left and a single point required to guarantee 2nd place did they really need to bin him now......?

I think I'll cut off my Internet access and stay in bed tomorrow...

What an amazingly shite end to the season.

I'm not sad Mancini had gone as he hasn't a clue but why the fcuk didn't they wait till after the last game?

Unless Mancini drew their hand and made them announce something?

I really would prefer Martinez or even Benitez before this Pellegrino

Ps if its Brian Kidd in charge does that mean moon face has gone too?

Sorry to go against the tide but I thought it was absolutely the right decision
I'm not particularly interested in win ratios or any other such stuff
When I travel the country to go and watch City,the very least I expect is that the players are motivated enough to mirror the efforts of the 3000 supporters who've spent their hard earned to get to Southampton for a 5-15 Saturday night game to support them and not be treated to another can't be arsed performance by a completely unmotivated side managed by a tactically inept man
For Southampton see Sunderland Everton Liverpool spurs etc
They've been a fucking disgrace this season and lord only knows how they've managed to stay in 2nd spot
Poorly handled by the club but ultimately spot on

well done manchester Chelsea what a joke we are now. As rightfully stated at least give him the dignity of the final 2 games. I am so disappointed in the way the club has acted no one in their right mind can agree with this decision I am sorry pplf but if sacking the manager every time we have a difficult hurdle to overcome is the answer then we might as well amalgamate with Chelsea.

Poor decision how many trophy,s must the next manager win ,surely we cannot be expected to win the league and champs league every year because that is now the precedent the board have ascribed to. Where is the projected 10 year plan long term future bullshit. What message does that give to any future manager, With Bobby's record our clubs position will become the new poisoned chalice. What a F***oing joke.

They didn't like his man management skills - simple. No answer to that is there. He froze so many players out - Milner, Johnson, Lescott, Hart at times, - never gave Sinclair a chance. We've all been moaning about his tactical ineptness - and it was - together with his poor man management. He couldn't get along with Bellamy either - another one who gave 100%. We lost DeJong - it was probably Mancini's doing - he froze him out for a while too.

Time to move on - no good crying over spilt milk. Yes -we won the Prem and the FA Cup (thank you for those wonderful memories Bobby) - but we also lost the race this year to a very under par utd team. Lost the FA Cup to Wigan - who will probs be relegated. No shows in UEFA and CL - and no man management skills nor tactical nous. Didn't most of us on here say that if we lost to Wigan - he would be gone? We lost because we didn't turn up. I don't think our players cared for him one little bit. I THINK THE OWNERS WERE JUST WAITING UNTIL THE LOVEFEST FOR FERGIE RETIRING WAS OUT OF THE WAY.

From a secret footballer

"I've played for great managers, and I've also played for one or two where I would happily have faked my own death if it meant not working with them a minute longer. The best managers gain the absolute trust of their players, they put you on your toes whenever they set foot in the room, and have a playing philosophy that is greeted with enthusiasm and carried on to the pitch with spirit and belief. Above all, though, a manager must have the respect of everybody at the football club."

"Simple qualities are priceless. Players want a manager to be consistent and honest. Nobody wants to sit on the sidelines watching, but an explanation as to why you are not in the team, especially if you have only just been dropped, can go a long way to quelling discontent. Players will respect the manager for pulling them aside even if they don't agree with the decision. Man-management skills like this send out signals to the players; they keep everybody united and, as a result, extract the absolute best from a squad."

"When the opposite happens, unrest festers and stories start to surface about how the manager has "lost the dressing room". This does actually happen, perhaps not as regularly as some would have us believe, but there are certainly occasions when players collectively lose respect for a manager. I've experienced it. At one club I played for, it was because of a shared belief that our tactics were flawed, that this was making us look like poor players and, in turn, lose matches."

And to cap it all - he supposedly fell out with Kompany before the Cup match.

That Bobby should go is the right decision. The way it has been handled has been a pile of crap.

wensdi,
"Time to move on - no good crying over spilt milk. Yes -we won the Prem and the FA Cup (thank you for those wonderful memories Bobby) - but we also lost the race this year to a very under par utd team. Lost the FA Cup to Wigan - who will probs be relegated. No shows in UEFA and CL - and no man management skills nor tactical nous. Didn't most of us on here say that if we lost to Wigan - he would be gone? We lost because we didn't turn up. I don't think our players cared for him one little bit".

Pretty much spot on that Wensdi.

Personally, I think the timing was wrong but I do think the owners hands were probably forced....as I think they'd have waited til the end of the season. I would hope we have a replacement lined up, although with Kidd being in charge for the summer tour to the US, that doesn't seem to suggest we have just yet. I too can't see what Pellegrini offers that we didn't already have....there are certainly other more established names that would fit the bill.

I wouldn't be too unhappy with the appointment of Pellegrini if he helps get us some decent names in. I think the Spanish duo will get us some stellar names but Pellegrini may just swing one or two others our way.

We could end up as a Spanish side (which could be good or bad!).

What is most painful, is that we are now classed as 'North Chelsea'. The way the club has gone about this is harsh to say the least. Not only on Mancini, but on ourselves also.

Not letting Mancini finish the season is a disgrace - I did feel this was his last season, especially if we didn't win anything. His own stubbornness has been his downfall I feel.

I know very little of Pellegrinni, so I can't comment on his tactics or his man management.

I'm slightly nervous for the future.

I still think despite us all being frustrated with Mancini, he deserved one more season. We've not had any success for so many years - a season without a trophy wasn't exactly a killer for us.

And I see Danny 'nobody' Mills have got his views in early.

You know as much as we do Danny, which is f*** all.

Danny Mills, the voice of City. That's like asking Stuart Hall to be a character witness!

Danny Mills played for City about as much as we did...

I've been on our pitch more often than Danny Mills.

I've stood on the hallowed turf twice: Once as part of the pitch invasion last season and once on the City tour a few years ago. I know I wasn't supposed to, but the guy turned his back and it was just there

They must have sacked him for a reason, sometimes it's just better to cut out the infection, his tactics have festered and poisoned a title winning side this season,
he had his chance to go out in style on Saturday-
but fucked it, for himself, and for us, and for the players.
It's harsh, and akin to being escorted out of the building, but if the owner wants you out, you have to walk, better he goes now than to have to endure another moment of his shite tactics, atleast we end the season with a bang....!!!!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2013/may/14/roberto-mancini-manchester-city-sacked

Roberto Mancini 'arrogant and vain' says former Manchester City kit man
• Sacked manager 'made going into work a daily grind'
• Fans did not realise the tension behind the scenes

Stephen Aziz, the former kit man at Manchester City, has criticised Roberto Mancini following his sacking as manager, describing him as "arrogant, vain and self-centred" in one of a series of tweets that were later deleted from his Twitter account on Tuesday morning.

Mancini finally lost his job on Monday evening with one reason being his divisive management style that had upset some members of staff. Aziz, who left for Sunderland last summer, tweeted: "Arrogant, vain, self-centred no manners ignorant just some of the daily traits really made going into work a daily grind!! #karma".



Another read: "Not my style to come in here and start to bad mouth someone but this guy was really a piece of work!!!". He added: "Fans don't get to see what really goes on and day 2 day running 2 years there seeing him every day was hard work getting a 'good morning'".

But he praised the club itself, saying: "Mcfc on the other hand what a great club to work for some great players and staff nice down to earth ppl loved working there!!! #MCFC"

Well look at that....Danny Mills was right.

Well, that's all we need - Danny Mills to be proved right. Now we'll never get rid of the twat

leopold wrote:Well, that's all we need - Danny Mills to be proved right. Now we'll never get rid of the twat

Well, even a stopped clock is right twice a day! and he's whined on like a knackered coockoo clock since he "left" ( has he left yet?)

Oh just ignore Danny Mills. Looks like the club realised that nothing would change if Mancini didn't change (his ways). If you don't have a good relationship with your players then you are not going to get respect from them. Think we need to look ahead - we are not Chelsea - Jordan - Mancini had 3.5 years and whilst he won two titles - if he had stepped off his high horse and nurtured some of his squad - then he might have gone on from strength to strength. If we were apprised of all the facts - we wouldn't be lamenting his exit. Another year of him with nothing changing - then we would have been asking why didn't he go last year.

Yes, Beware, he's gone now. His contract expired at the end of the season before last, if I remember, which is why he's able to do all these extra pieces in the papers and on the telly. And I mean contractually, as I'm sure he had plenty of free time before anyway

Wensdi, again I can't argue with your points any more than I could with Dawg or Shaken or anyone else who is looking at his record and thinking it's not quite up to scratch. My issue isn't with him going, it's the manner in which it's been done that sticks in my throat.

Unfortunately Leo - the rumours were true and the club could not release a statement before the Cup match to reinforce that his job was safe. This happened to SAF as well - rumours were leaked of his pending retirement before the club was ready to announce it. How this type of info is leaked is beyond me.

MCFC had to act swiftly I suppose as the papers and internet were full of speculation. It's a pity but what's the difference really - the stories supporting the issue of his poor man management skills, and arrogance have only convinced me that he had to go. I think he also held grudges against players and liked to blame others for his own short-comings. The display on Saturday was probably the last straw for the club. We will survive and learn from all of this. How do you tell somebody nicely that you are surplus to requirements?

I can think of about 7 million ways they have told him Wensdi.

That would certainly help me get over it.

Onward and upwards

I posted on this last night, overnight and this morning has helped me realise the club must have had a bloody good reason for not being able to wait 7 days to give him the boot. All the reports this morning talk of the players not being able to play for him etc. etc.

There is nothing we can do about it now, so my question is this....

With Kidd being in the dressing room as part of RM's coaching staff, will the players play for him and finish the season in a professional manner...? or will they see him as an extension of RM and bugger up 2nd place..?

Wensdi: You don't - there isn't a nice way to do that. But you can do it respectfully.

He should've been advised of the plan before all the media interest, so he could either walk away or finish the job. What shouldn't have happened was the "mushroom management" where Mancini was hassled by the press for two months about the security of his tenure with no support or backup from his superiors.

If you restrict yourself to just the Premiership and just this calendar year, you can see two further examples of managers being fired. Nobody "foresaw" Adkins or McDermott losing their jobs, there was no real media speculation before their respective axes fell and there were no awkward questions for them to face. Neither manager had to suffer the indignity of everyone else knowing first and both Southampton and Reading were able to plan their actions without these leaks. Granted, neither of those clubs are under the spotlight as much as we are, but surely that's all the more reason to keep a lid on things?

And then, of course, there's the small matter of Pellegrini's agent also having Isco on his books, who is one of our target players. Since it would've been more likely that the speculation would be, "We're talking to Isco", suggests that someone tipped off the press. So who the hell is letting this stuff out?

It smacks of a shoddy operation. It affects the very integrity of the club, a club that I've been proud of until now, even with the turbulence of the past three decades. That we can do this not once, but twice, says the current owners don't put a high value on respect and that bothers me.

To put it another way: During the clubs darker times, when we were a laughing stock, when we were useless, when we were getting battered by York City, even when we suffered at the hands of the arrogant neighbours over the Irwell, I'd always feel proud of my club. I didn't go there to see glory or silverware, I went there because that's where I belonged. But this isn't what I signed up for. I've always been able to laugh off the crazy stuff in the past, but this isn't Typical City, this is something else. For the first time in my life, I'm truly ashamed of my club and it's not a nice feeling.

show me a work place where everyone gets on with everyone else. There will always be conflicts so naturally those that have probably had an issue with Bobby & left since will of course put their tuppence worth in. I am feeling totally embarrassed at the way the club has conducted itself for the second time in 3 years. We all bang on about class & dignity well maybe the board could have shown some and waited until 5.00pm on Sunday before relieving Bobby of his duties.

Mainerdwasmychurch wrote:I posted on this last night, overnight and this morning has helped me realise the club must have had a bloody good reason for not being able to wait 7 days to give him the boot. All the reports this morning talk of the players not being able to play for him etc. etc.

There is nothing we can do about it now, so my question is this....

With Kidd being in the dressing room as part of RM's coaching staff, will the players play for him and finish the season in a professional manner...? or will they see him as an extension of RM and bugger up 2nd place..?

I think the players know Kidd is as much City, if not more than some of them, otherwise they would've booted him out too, and I'm sure Kidd got the cold shoulder from Mancini too, Kidd knows how to talk to players, hate to say it, but he spent long enough with Fergie to realise how to man manage, have a word, kind or not with the lads.

I'm sure the players will feel some kind of release, if not relief now, and will want to move forward, they'll be wanting to try to end the season the right way, lets hope they can deliver something we can take away and give us, and them some pride back.
No Zaba, so Micah will be marauding down the wing hopefully.
No doubt all eyes will be on the boys tonight, as the Media look to turn it into (another) crisis @ City!

# Together has been the Motto, we kept hearing about the end of last season, shame no-one told Mancini that involves communicating with players and management!!!!!!

skyblueoz wrote:... maybe the board could have shown some and waited until 5.00pm on Sunday before relieving Bobby of his duties.

I'd have waited until 6pm personally. Sacking someone just before the second half of the last match of the season kicks off would be a bit harsh

Bewar3them00n wrote:# Together has been the Motto, we kept hearing about the end of last season, shame no-one told Mancini that involves communicating with players and management!!!!!!

Shame nobody told the owners it doesn't mean leaking stuff to the press...

It's a tough job being a manager in the Prem now - well paid - but tenuous if you don't perform. We all said he was a dead man if he didn't win the cup. Things will never be like they used to be when Big Joe was in charge. It's a cut-throat business. Just hope the players respond positively today - that will speak volumes.

By the sounds of it, Wensdi, he was a dead man regardless... Still, we're winning at the moment, so I suppose that's okay.

you're probably right Leo but my timing is all out of sync at the moment. city v reading game was on at 02.45 am here in Perth this morning. I set the dvd to record the game. woke up this morning to find id recorded Norwich v west brom re run of Sunday's game. I was 45 mins early.

Ouch! That's a bit of a pisser, oz

Apparently Manuel Pellegrini has agreed a two-year deal with City.

http://www.malagahoy.es/article/malagacf/1523607/pellegrini/y/malaga/acuerdan/su/salida/julio.html

It was only a matter of time. The way the odds collapsed on him being appointed last week, someone knew something was going on.

not kidding leo just found out a re run tonight of the city game on at 10.00pm so out playing in a squash tournament tonight but have checked the dvd settings. If I stuff up tonight I am going to be one pissed off angry person. No doubt the missus will be calling me Victor again. After Mr Meldrew.