Raheem Sterling poll

There seems to be a difference of opinion about the young lad.

Some think he's bang average and others think he's doing really well.

So, let's settle this once and for all.

Let's rate him between 1 and 10 for how he's performing this season. Nothing to do with potential and how old he is, just how well he's doing this season.

I'll start off with a 7. I think he's done alright, but we need him to do better more consistently and stick chances away as we, as a team, need to be much more clinical. If we were clinical, we'd be comfortably top of the league (we'd have beaten Chelsea, Boro and Everton for starters).

No, let's forget all the bad bits and give him 10.

I think you have to take the fee into account
For my way of thinking £46milliion buys you the real deal,not potential
Last season I would give him a 4
The vast improvemt this season had rocketed him to a 5

I personally don't think he'll ever be a world beater...but admittedly he does seem to have done better this season (hopefully this will continue).
Upto now he's still not had the impact to the team of the likes of Agureo, Silva, KDB, etc have had....and he probably never will.

I'd say he's an average player who does ok in a decent team...he's certainly not someone i think City will ever reply on to get results though.

He gets a 5 from me too, just my opinion.

I agree that for the money paid, you'd expect a more complete player, but Stones is in the same boat. We've overpaid for both of them (don't we always these days?) partly because of the transfer inflation of recent years, especially for English players.

So, he's averaging 6.75 from 4 posters. I'll amend that if TBW puts in his real score.

He's got 5 PL goals and 6 assists...for £44m. He's 21 years of age.
KDB cost us £55m and he has 2 PL goals and 9 assists. He takes corners and free kicks, not stuck out wide on the wing.

Can he do better? Yep. Can he score more? Yep.

However, his stats show he has more take-ons than any other player in Europe this season. He's far younger than KDB...so what does everyone think about the money and performances of KDB this season compared to Sterling...if money comes into the equation?

I'll give Sterling a 7.5. Lol!!

And KDB a 5.

It is a valid argument blue, but how many City fans would still rather have KDB in the team than Sterling?

If KDB keeps up the form he's in....

Of course...I'd rather have KDB...he's class, but, he's been crap this season.

Dawg, I agree with Shaken's assessment, so it's a 5 from me too.

7 for me.

can frustrate and in glimpses looks ace, just not often enough, but is vastly improved this season.

That's an average around 6

Sounds like bang average to me then.
I rest my case m'lud.

Shit, if he's a 6 for 'this' season....wtf do the other lot score!!!

Always a bit disappointed with Sterling to be honest.  He falls downs a lot, can't seem to win a tackle and his end result is mostly disappointing.  Having said that he has had a few good games.  Cannot agree over KDB - he has not been crap this season - he is always in the right place - runs his ass off - makes a lot of assists.  Don't know which KDB you have been watching. 

Sterling is a 5 for me.  Silva is a 9 and KDB is an 8.

Wensdi, your assessment of Sterling seems pretty sound to me.
I really don't have anything personal against him, he just continues to frustrate the hell out of me by running into people and/or blind alleys when there is obviously so much more there.
I'm afraid I really can't see his potential ever being fulfilled because he doesn't seem to have any confidence in his own abilities either.
Maybe my language has been unfairly harsh in the past, but the bottom line for me is that he will never be the great player that we hoped he would become. I'd be chuffed to little mint balls if he proves me wrong, but I don't think he will.
So for me, yes he is bang average.

With Wensdi's vote, his average has dipped below 6

Wensdi wrote:Always a bit disappointed with Sterling to be honest.  He falls downs a lot, can't seem to win a tackle and his end result is mostly disappointing.  Having said that he has had a few good games.  Cannot agree over KDB - he has not been crap this season - he is always in the right place - runs his ass off - makes a lot of assists.  Don't know which KDB you have been watching. 

Sterling is a 5 for me.  Silva is a 9 and KDB is an 8.

Navas runs his arse off....

Look, I love KDB....but a return of 2 PL goals for £55m isn't great. We're complaining about Sterling scoring 5 PL goals and he's now classed as bang average. What has the kid got to do? He's got 4 assists, 5 less than KDB....and he never takes corners or free kicks.

If we take away Sergio and Kelechi as strikers (and let's not forget, KDB has been played as a false 9 as well):

Sterling has 5 PL goals
Nolito has 4 PL goals
Gundogan has 3 PL goals
TLMLF has 3 PL goals
KDB has 2 PL goals

Can Sterling frustrate? Absolutely. Does he fall down softly? Yes. However, if he's scoring and assisting at the rate he is after half a season...I'll happily take 10 goals and 8 assists for a winger. But if that's 'average'...not sure what people expect from him and I guess he'll never achieve what people expected him to.

Guess Pep likes 'bang average' players...as behind Bravo, Kolorov and KDB (by 10 mins), Sterling has played more minutes than anyone.

Who would you rather have in your team, alexis Sanchez or raheem sterling?

Or dele Allie who is playing in midfield. Is even younger than sterling, has played fewer PL games than sterling and is scoring at better than a goal every 3 games? And he only cost £5M

What a pointless comparison - "would you rather have...."

It's like me asking would you rather have Kane or Kelechi....or would you rather have Hazard or Nolito?

We can all look at players in form and who have done well for other clubs and compare them.

Pretty much agree with Wensdi too
He does fall over far too much, always looking for the foul instead of just shooting or passing. He does regularly just run into defenders as well
He may have 5 goals but he should have a lot more
with the amount of opportunities he has had in front of goal
On the plus side he is better than last season & has had 2 or 3 excellent,close to MOTM games and as far as wingers go is far better than Navas & has been better than Nolito & Sane(from the little we've seen of him)
I'd give him a mid term report of 6 - More consistency and confidence in taking on defenders & it could rise to a 7 or 8

TMG wrote:Pretty much agree with Wensdi too
He does fall over far too much, always looking for the foul instead of just shooting or passing. He does regularly just run into defenders as well
He may have 5 goals but he should have a lot more
with the amount of opportunities he has had in front of goal
On the plus side he is better than last season & has had 2 or 3 excellent,close to MOTM games and as far as wingers go is far better than Navas & has been better than Nolito & Sane(from the little we've seen of him)
I'd give him a mid term report of 6 - More consistency and confidence in taking on defenders & it could rise to a 7 or 8

I agree and said it about his falling over....but, as for goals and him should having a lot more....there's only Mane who is an out and out winger and scored more goals than him. Also, and this isn't a dig at KDB....but if comments are made about Sterling like "he should have a lot more"...well KDB's got 2 PL goals as a number 10. Should he have scored a lot more then?

KdBs all round game is far better than Raheems He's hit the woodwork on at least 3 occasions I can remember and must have more shots on target than Raheem
KdB doesn't get knocked off the ball as easily either

Not saying that KdB is perfect coz as u say he could be doing a lot more too
Sterlings score is pretty much the same as I'd give for the team as a whole so far. Incredibly the only player who I'd say has been considerably better this season than last is your favourite Yaya

I agree - TLMLF has done well. I would have said Fernandinho, but the fact he's been sent off 3 times has tarnished his contribution to the team.

I agree - KDB would always be in my team and as a No.10, you'd expect him to have far more shots than a winger who hugs the touchline. Posts are posts, not the net though.

Anyway....it's all about opinions and it seems the general consensus on this site from 7/8 members, is that Sterling has been just above average. So, who are the players who have outscored Sterling on performance this season? Don't think we can include TLMLF, as he has only recently come into the team and missed most of the first half of the season.

My guess - and this isn't who is the overall better player, but who has performed better than Sterling:

Fernandinho - but again, his red cards have to be taken into account.

Sergio - but again, 2 red cards?

KDB? Yes, he's brilliant and has 9 assists, but a poor goal return.

Sagna? has he played enough games?

Otamendi? Think he's been better recently, but as good as Sterling?

Silva - definitely been one of the best players this season - but again, he should be getting far more goals and assists than Sterling.

better give my assessment then as you all know I am a big fan of sterling. My beef against him is he does need to toughen up as he does get knocked off a ball easily, He does go down a lot but I think because of his speed he does get fouled a lot & he does beat players also. This running into players can happen to anyone . I remember goals against Swansea , Celtic, & Arsenal by running at & beating the fullback before scoring. His finishing could well do with some improvement though but I still think he has all the makings of a top player for City. Yes I would still rather have KDB as he is just a notch below what I would deem world Class but I still rate Sterling as an 8.

By saying Sterling is bang average is not to imply that everyone else is much better than him this season.
It has been a frustrating campaign so far from pretty much everyone.
It's just that I can see several others being capable of upping their game, but I can't see that with Sterling. But as I said before, I would love him to prove me wrong.
If he does, Blue I will treat you to a pint and a chippy supper.

I agree Oz.....of course there are things that need to improve in his game and I'm sure they will in the coming years.

It's about opinions though. Be interesting to see who are the players that have performed better than Sterling this season and why....

titbumwilly wrote:By saying Sterling is bang average is not to imply that everyone else is much better than him this season.
It has been a frustrating campaign so far from pretty much everyone.
It's just that I can see several others being capable of upping their game, but I can't see that with Sterling.  But as I said before, I would love him to prove me wrong.
If he does, Blue I will treat you to a pint and a chippy supper.

Out of interest, who are those players who you see as upping their game - and what does 'upping their game' entail?

we talk about Fernandinho's red cards but in all honesty the only one that was justified was (only for the scissor action at the end) was the Burnley one. If the ref v Chelsea had acted accordingly on 2 occasions then Ferna would not have got red & the red v Monchengladbach was a complete joke. He has been one of our better players this year though. KDB is still very high in my estimation Silva too Aguero is working much harder this year but sometimes I think to the detriment of the team in so far as that he is more all over the pitch this season so when a scoring opportunity comes along he appears to be trying to hard as the onus on him to score is greater. I have never seen him miss as many penalties as he has this season.
Otamendi has definitely improved from last season but I still think he has an awful long way to go to convince me he is a top defender. His reading of situations leaves a lot to be desired.

skyblueoz wrote:we talk about Fernandinho's red cards but in all honesty the only one that was justified was (only for the scissor action at the end) was the Burnley one. If the ref v Chelsea had acted accordingly on 2 occasions then Ferna would not have got red & the red v Monchengladbach was a complete joke. He has been one of our better players this year though. KDB is still very high in my estimation Silva too Aguero is working much harder this year but sometimes I think to the detriment of the team in so far as that he is more all over the pitch this season so when a scoring opportunity comes along he appears to be trying to hard as the onus on him to score is greater. I have never seen him miss as many penalties as he has this season.
Otamendi has definitely improved from last season but I still think he has an awful long way to go to convince me he is a top defender. His reading of situations leaves a lot to be desired.

So;

Fernandinho - agree, but he deserved his red card against Chelsea, regardless of what Fabregas did.
Silva - agree
KDB - I'd say he has had more of an impact on games than Sterling, but his goal record is poor this season
Aguero - started on fire and is still one of the only world class players we have - but he's been hit and miss this season for him, but will always get us goals

So is Sterling's 5 PL goals and 4 PL assists that average for an out an out winger?

Maybe I'll give up on this...

Pretty much everyone to be honest. But most have played with far more consistency and effectiveness in the past and therefore are potentially capable of doing so again.
This was always going to be a transitional season with a whole new managerial ethos coming into the club. So I guess it's no surprise that performances are so erratic this season.
Fingers crossed that next season everyone is back to the level that they have shown in the past, and Sterling will get to that level too on a more regular basis.

titbumwilly wrote:Pretty much everyone to be honest. But most have played with far more consistency and effectiveness in the past and therefore are potentially capable of doing so again.
This was always going to be a transitional season with a whole new managerial ethos coming into the club. So I guess it's no surprise that performances are so erratic this season.
Fingers crossed that next season everyone is back to the level that they have shown in the past, and Sterling will get to that level too on a more regular basis.

That's too vague TBW. "Pretty much everyone"?

So, Zaba will improve, Sagna will, Kolorov will, Clichy will, Stones will, Fernando will, Navas will, Nolito will, Sane will, Kelechi will, Delph will, TLMLF will..........name me who's played with consistency out of them lot this and last season?

This poll was about Sterling, not KdB. But, since you want to compare his stats to KdB's then why won't you compare Sterling's stats to Dele Alli's???

Players I'd have above Raheem on the team sheet:

Aguero
Silva
KdB
Fernandinho

Topdawg wrote:This poll was about Sterling, not KdB. But, since you want to compare his stats to KdB's then why won't you compare Sterling's stats to Dele Alli's???

Players I'd have above Raheem on the team sheet:

Aguero
Silva
KdB
Fernandinho

2-fold....Alli plays for Spurs and Alli is an attacking MF, not an out and out winger....thought that much was fairly obvious Dawg.

Told you - gave you the facts....there's only Mane as an out an out winger who has scored more goals than Sterling.

Let's compare Sterling to Costa?

And as for having on the team sheet - I totally agree with you. Never once said I'd have Sterling over any of those players on the team sheet - so it's sort of nonsensical, as Aguero is a striker and Fernandinho is a DFM....it's like asking me would I rather pick Sterling over Bravo and play without a keeper!!

Wait....don't answer that.

blueboy wrote:

TMG wrote:Pretty much agree with Wensdi too
He does fall over far too much, always looking for the foul instead of just shooting or passing. He does regularly just run into defenders as well
He may have 5 goals but he should have a lot more
with the amount of opportunities he has had in front of goal
On the plus side he is better than last season & has had 2 or 3 excellent,close to MOTM games and as far as wingers go is far better than Navas & has been better than Nolito & Sane(from the little we've seen of him)
I'd give him a mid term report of 6 - More consistency and confidence in taking on defenders & it could rise to a 7 or 8

I agree and said it about his falling over....but, as for goals and him should having a lot more....there's only Mane who is an out and out winger and scored more goals than him. Also, and this isn't a dig at KDB....but if comments are made about Sterling like "he should have a lot more"...well KDB's got 2 PL goals as a number 10. Should he have scored a lot more then?

OK you could argue that KDB should be scoring more goals but comparing him to Sterling is just daft in my view. 
KDB has so much more in his locker than Sterling, his reading of the game,work rate, passing, tackling and all round contribution is way better than Sterling and he rarely wastes a pass or runs into blind alleys or simply falls over.
Take the Burnley game for example when Kun scored from a tight angle, Raheem was through and got to the ball ahead of the keeper but instead of trying to score he stubs his toe and goes down without doing anything ??? Now some may say he tried to dink it over the keeper but stubbed his toe in the process and fell over while others may say he was looking for a penalty as the easier option.
Fortunately, the ball worked out to Kun who cored with aplomb in comparison.

BTW i give Sterling a 5 too.

ManCityMan wrote:

blueboy wrote:

TMG wrote:Pretty much agree with Wensdi too
He does fall over far too much, always looking for the foul instead of just shooting or passing. He does regularly just run into defenders as well
He may have 5 goals but he should have a lot more
with the amount of opportunities he has had in front of goal
On the plus side he is better than last season & has had 2 or 3 excellent,close to MOTM games and as far as wingers go is far better than Navas & has been better than Nolito & Sane(from the little we've seen of him)
I'd give him a mid term report of 6 - More consistency and confidence in taking on defenders & it could rise to a 7 or 8

I agree and said it about his falling over....but, as for goals and him should having a lot more....there's only Mane who is an out and out winger and scored more goals than him. Also, and this isn't a dig at KDB....but if comments are made about Sterling like "he should have a lot more"...well KDB's got 2 PL goals as a number 10. Should he have scored a lot more then?

OK you could argue that KDB should be scoring more goals but comparing him to Sterling is just daft in my view. 
KDB has so much more in his locker than Sterling, his reading of the game,work rate, passing, tackling and all round contribution is way better than Sterling and he rarely wastes a pass or runs into blind alleys or simply falls over.
Take the West Ham game for example when Kun scored from a tight angle, Raheem was through and got to the ball ahead of the keeper but instead of trying to score he stubs his toe and goes down without doing anything ??? Now some may say he tried to dink it over the keeper but stubbed his toe in the process and fell over while others may say he was looking for a penalty as the easier option.
Fortunately, the ball worked out to Kun who cored with aplomb in comparison.

BTW i give Sterling a 5 too.

Nobody is comparing the quality of KDB to Sterling, nor is anyone saying Sterling is a better player than KDB....but you've just done what some others have on here - you've mentioned one incident as an example of Sterling's performance (stubbing his toe), yet failed to mention most of KDB's poor free kicks, mis-hit shots, and the glaring open net from 3 yards out that would have changed the whole game against Chelsea.

We're talking about performance this season. When the whole debate came up, the following were mentioned about Sterling:

- his price tag
- his falling over
- his weakness in a tackle
- his inconsistency

All I did was reply with the following:

- he was cheaper than KDB
- he's scored more goals this season than KDB
- KDB hasn't been anywhere near his level of performance this season as he was last season
- Sterling only has 5 less assists than KDB and doesn't take free kicks and corners like KDB does.
- Sterling is an out and out winger, KDB is a No.10, so should get more opportunities to score and assist.
- for all his 'issues', Sterling has more take-ons in the box than any other player in Europe, is the 2nd highest goal-scoring winger in the PL and has 4 assists

Yet, many on here, including you, gave him a 5 for this season, but I'm sure many would give KDB a far higher score, purely on what he did last season - because he hasn't been anywhere near last seasons level of performance this season.

Horses for courses, we all see different things I guess.

So, on performance then, if most on here are giving Sterling a 5-6, what would you give these players for this season:

Aguero
Kelechi
Silva
KDB
Fernandinho
Fernando
Navas
Gundogan (albeit a few games)
TLMLF (albeit a few games)
Nolito
Sane
Sagna
Zaba
Stones
Otamendi
Kolorov
Clichy
Bravo

These would be mine:

Aguero - 6
Kelechi - 5
Silva - 8
KDB - 7
Fernandinho - 7
Fernando - 6
Navas - 5
Gundogan (albeit a few games) - 7
TLMLF (albeit a few games) - 7
Nolito - 6
Sane - 5
Sagna - 6
Zaba - 6
Stones - 6
Otamendi - 6
Kolorov - 6
Clichy - 6
Bravo - 3

Sterling - 7

This is boring the tits off me now.
Raheem Sterling is no better than average. It's my view, nothing more, nothing less.
Don't care if anyone agrees or disagrees, it's not important.
By the way, I think poached eggs are better than fried eggs. Does anyone want to discuss that? It would be just as pointless a discussion.
Off for a cuppa now, with milk in first as it should be, or should it?

on toast, poached every time, with a smattering of brown sauce..
on a butty with bacon and sausage I would go for fried eggs..

I think Blueboy will come in with a good argument for scrambled and Wensdi will ba a soft boiled all the way  )

Ooh eggs in context! Never thought of that! Yes, poached on toast but fried in a sandwich. God nothing is as cut and dried as it first appears.
Salt and pepper on poached, brown sauce on fried egg sandwich.

Definitely scrambled on brown toast....and if it's boring, kindly fuck off and don't bother replying - there, that's in context.

As for tea....milk after - always. Though I only drink herbal tea these days. Keeps me calmer around bell-ends.

Wow. Such amazing wit. You sure you aren't a rag Redboy?

Haha...how did I know you'd read that into it?

I re-read and thought....I wonder.

TBW, it wasn't meant for you - the idiots I'm dealing with today from a work perspective!